View Full Version : Substrate?

08-12-2005, 02:09 AM
whats good substrate for cresteds? does ecoearth or bedabeast work (the coconut fiber)? and how large to the branches inside have to be and how many would be good?

08-12-2005, 02:22 AM
Ecoearth and Bedabeast are fine for substrates. The branches should be of different thicknesses, as long as they're strong enough to not break under the weight of the geckos. They love to climb; the more branches, the better.

08-12-2005, 12:02 PM
If you keep enough distance between the branches you can observe your crestie "hopping" from branch to branch. And like Babamb said Ecoearth and Bedabeast work really great.

08-12-2005, 07:02 PM
okay thanks. im just setting up the tank soon. but ill probably have to wait a long time before i get them. and do regular outside branches work?

08-14-2005, 06:25 PM
they work as long as you soak them down and them put them in the oven at like 450 F for about 10 min. I know Nathan knows exact temperatures and times because he told me, but i forgot. :(

08-14-2005, 06:58 PM
won't they burn or catch on fire? soak in what? bleach?

Nathan Hall
08-14-2005, 08:36 PM
Soak them in water for a minute or so and cook them for about 5-10 minutes like Andrew (herperboy) suggests. They will not burn, but you need to keep an eye on them.

08-14-2005, 09:50 PM
ok thanks. ive gotten about 7 or 8 large sticks. is that enough for two cresties?

08-15-2005, 01:22 AM
That sounds like plenty if the sticks span across the whole cage, but make sure they are fairly thick so that the geckos dont have trouble staying on them. How big of an enclosure do you have?

08-15-2005, 07:10 PM
20 gallon. its a long tank but its pretty high as well. but it will have to be kept on the carpet as i have no tank stands as of now. lol. i was getting one but the guy gave it to someone else. how active are they? more than a fat tail?

08-16-2005, 08:15 PM
I would say they are more active during the night. If you go in and flip the light on you can catch them jumping around on the branches, and just doing what geckos do.

08-17-2005, 02:14 AM
i suggest a substrate of dirt. plain clean soil, no animal wastes or worm casting.
add leaf mould, sand, milled peat moss and it should great for your plants and so on. if you have a Home Depot, buy a bag of Super Soil brand potting soil, brown and yellow bag as it is just what you want. then in a ratio of 30% mix one/third of the other items to the soil and mix. black bag this for a few days in the sun and vola! dirt...

as for wood. i've been hearing the whole soak and bake idea but really you don't have too. imagine trying that with a four foot long tree banch that is 2 feet wide? heck! just spray it off well so no spiders and such remain and you're good to go.
also, i've seen in many of the cresty tanks that they seem enjoy a finer bark like a maple or ficus better then oak or other heavy thick barked branches. I've also noted the activity on branches with an average diameter of their waste and mid section more then larger or smaller sized branches. hope this helps.

Nathan Hall
08-17-2005, 02:49 AM
imagine trying that with a four foot long tree banch that is 2 feet wide
I cook what I can fit in the oven.

08-17-2005, 02:55 AM
The Saw is Family! just kidding...no texas born man eaters here...

08-17-2005, 10:03 PM
thanks that did help. whats black bagging btw? i have no idea what the tree thats in my back yard is. but i know that the branches were young and fairly green. and they had fine bark. the bark peels off not breaks.

08-17-2005, 10:45 PM
black bagging is just a term meaning to place the dirt in a black bag and
set it in the sun for a while to thermally cook. this helps lot's of ways.

as a vivarium builder i can' condone cutting live trees. find felled wood or something. call an aborest but don't destroy what we're trying re-create.

do some research of local trees, library books work, so you find good wood and not bad. soft woods will break down fast.

08-19-2005, 01:52 AM
oh. yeah i forgot to mention. the neighbors cut down two huge branches off one side of the tree, without permision :x and the tree was falling slowly. it would have squashed the air conditioner. so i just cut several branches off. more like half the foliage on the right side but still. this tree grows faster than usual. after two months of living here its grown too many branches it seems.

the branches that i cut i am planning to dry out in the sun. in arizona that works fairly well with it being very dry and hot. if they don't ill find something else.

and one more thing. do cresteds actually change color? like chameleons or does it look that way with certain light?