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Geckospot
11-16-2005, 11:20 AM
I plan to purchase some rack systems for some terrestrial Australian species. Im curious to know what brands of rack systems everyone else uses. What are the positive or negative traits to the brands you use (ex. rigidity, insulation, looks, durability, etc,)? :lol:

Ken Bartenfeld
11-16-2005, 11:57 AM
Mine are great, just ordered more too...just imagine 5 more rows on each one and thats what they will look like.

Boaphileplastics.com

http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/data/55026Finished_Racks-med.jpg

Geckospot
11-18-2005, 07:57 PM
Hmmm...Does no one else use rack systems?

GeckoFiend
11-19-2005, 09:13 AM
Lol, I like how ken has about 1000$ worth of racks with a 40$ hovabator sitting on top :)

Nathan Hall
11-19-2005, 09:41 AM
Ken lives a dichotomous life.

I'm a big Animal Plastics fan. I know Scott and Alberto are as well.

Ken Bartenfeld
11-19-2005, 10:08 AM
Wtf is dichotomous? Hold on, off to dictionary.com. A two part life, what the hell?

Anyways! That little incubator works great! I stand by my Hovabator ;-)

Yea, and see the Tempurpedic celebrity bed Nate, thast like a dream to sleep on :lol:

Nathan Hall
11-19-2005, 10:19 AM
nice rack vs. cheap incubator (I use them too)

Geckospot
11-19-2005, 10:23 AM
From what I understand, you can only use heat rope with the animal plastics racks. Right?

KelliH
11-19-2005, 10:47 AM
I like my Animal Plastics racks a lot. I am thinking about trying out one of the new Vision Racks and seeing how I like them. They are much more lightweight, and have wheels, for easy moving.

Geckospot
11-19-2005, 11:34 AM
Yeah. I was checking them out. They're not the most attractive, but they are well priced and they're the only ones I've found that hold 66qt sterilites. That would be perfect for my rhacs.

Ken Bartenfeld
11-19-2005, 12:14 PM
I also was thinking of them, but how often do you have to move your racks? I just set mine up and there I go...

I liked the fact they had 66qt to Chris, that would hold thousands of roaches...they should make a 92qt one. Saw one at Wal-Mart, that thing was huge.

So you guys like Animal Plastics alot, have your tried boaphile racks? I like the AP racks because they have options of 10 highs and stuff. If I could have redone mine, I would go with APs for that reason.

Geckospot
11-19-2005, 01:39 PM
The Ap's are pretty cool. I think the boaphile racks look more clean since they dont have those screw holes. Im still confused about whether or not heat tape can be used for the ap's. They said the grooves were routed for heat rope. Im kind of unsure about the heat rope.

Ken Bartenfeld
11-19-2005, 03:43 PM
Thats why one reason I went with boaphile, the tape is installed in the back, and ready to just plug in.

Geckospot
11-19-2005, 06:23 PM
So you use back heat Ken? I was leaning toward belly heat.

Ken Bartenfeld
11-19-2005, 06:32 PM
No no no, it has belly heat installed...let me find a pic...

http://www.boaphileplastics.com/RhinoRaXX_files/flex_sideways_sweater.jpg

See!?

Geckospot
11-19-2005, 06:38 PM
Ok. Thats cool. I didn't know the racks came without backs.

Ken Bartenfeld
11-19-2005, 09:35 PM
Again, nooooo...LOL, your great Chris...they come with back, they are just showing what the back looks like, where the heat tape is!

bugman426
11-28-2005, 02:15 PM
For those of you with Animal Plastic racks, what are they like to install?

I think im going to get one, but im afraid ill mess it up.

Also, whats better: indirect belly heat, or belly heat for the aussies

ptenopus
11-28-2005, 08:06 PM
i like boaphile...they look tight, pretty lightwieght, and they are cheap ready to plug in

KelliH
11-30-2005, 01:43 AM
I like my AP racks. They are extremely easy to assemble, and are very durable, similar to melamine racks but a bit lighter. I have had Boaphile racks in the past, and frankly they were not as well made, and tended to bow over time.


I also was thinking of them, but how often do you have to move your racks? I just set mine up and there I go

Well, I do clean behind mine occasionally :P Sometimes stuff falls behind them, thermostats are plugged in back there.. etc..

Anyway, the reason I ordered one of the Vision racks is because I have this one space left in my gecko room, but it's right in front of a closet that I need to get into. SO I figured a lightweight rack on wheels would be perfect there :D

I'll take pics and let you guys know how I like it. I should be getting the rack any day now. It holds 20 sweater boxes.

Geckospot
11-30-2005, 01:46 AM
Do you use the heat rope with those ap racks? Will they route them for heat tape instead?

KelliH
11-30-2005, 02:06 AM
Do you use the heat rope with those ap racks? Will they route them for heat tape instead?


Yes, my AP racks have heat cable. Works great. I don't think they offer flexwatt heat.

GCS Reptiles
11-30-2005, 06:38 AM
I thought I saw something on AP's website that they may start offering heat tape as an option.

Geckospot
11-30-2005, 11:28 AM
That would be great. I'd prefer the heat tape. I like that they offer the ten high racks, unlike boaphile.

Geckospot
11-30-2005, 11:36 AM
Oh yeah.. :D :D :D I just spoke with the people at animal plastics and they told me that they can route the shelves for heat tape instead of the cable. It costs $25 less because they dont supply the tape. That means the 10 high 1756 rack is only $375. I know what I plan to order. :mrgreen:

bugman426
11-30-2005, 11:44 AM
so you have to install the heat tape yourself?

also should i do direct belly heat or indirect belly heat?

Geckospot
11-30-2005, 11:50 AM
Yes you have to install it yourself. Its not difficult.
You should only use back heat if your herp room is over 75 degrees. I'd go with belly heat for the aussie geckos.

Ken Bartenfeld
11-30-2005, 11:58 AM
I agree with belly heat...I need more racks...decisions decisions!

Geckospot
11-30-2005, 12:04 PM
Where is the least expensive place to buy helix thermostats? Im looking at the Helix DBS 1000.

Ken Bartenfeld
11-30-2005, 12:50 PM
Here are a couple...seems around $120


http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=22&de=321168
http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=22&de=361672
http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=22&de=325513

bugman426
11-30-2005, 12:57 PM
Yes you have to install it yourself. Its not difficult.
You should only use back heat if your herp room is over 75 degrees. I'd go with belly heat for the aussie geckos.

i wasnt asking about back heat

AP offers direct belly heat and indirect belly heat..i just didnt know what the difference was

Geckospot
11-30-2005, 12:59 PM
Oops. Im not sure..

bugman426
12-08-2005, 09:59 PM
i just ordered an AP rack today wired for flexwatt. What type of thermostats do you guys use? I feel like $130 is a lot for a Helix unit

Geckospot
12-08-2005, 10:07 PM
I ordered my AP, sterilite 1756 (10) rack routed for flexwatt last week and just ordered the Helix DBS 1000 earlier today.

Im not sure if they told you but these racks are routed for 4" heat tape. The only place I've been able to find it is beanfarm.com.

bugman426
12-08-2005, 10:15 PM
I ordered my AP, sterilite 1756 (10) rack routed for flexwatt last week and just ordered the Helix DBS 1000 earlier today.

Im not sure if they told you but these racks are routed for 4" heat tape. The only place I've been able to find it is beanfarm.com.

I got the same rack as you, just the smaller 7/14 one. They did tell me the racks were wired for 4 inch tape. I called up www.mgreptiles.com , and they said they could get exact dimensions cut for me.

I know i need a Helix, but $130 for a thermostat for me, at least now is too much $$

Riverside Reptiles
12-09-2005, 05:32 PM
i just ordered an AP rack today wired for flexwatt. What type of thermostats do you guys use? I feel like $130 is a lot for a Helix unit


The Ranco's are great, high quality, commercial grade thermostats and can often be had brand new on Ebay for $25-$30...but you have to wire them yourself. I have no issues with wiring one as it's pretty simple but I know some folks aren't so comfortable with it. I think they go for $70ish pre-wired from most herp related web sites. I think Big Apple sells a thermostat for around $30 pre-wired but I have no idea of the quality. You tend to get what you pay for though.

bugman426
12-09-2005, 05:47 PM
Yea, i decided on the ranco $70 one that comes pre-wired....seems like a good deal

Riverside Reptiles
12-09-2005, 08:43 PM
You'll be happy with the Ranco. It's a good quality thermostat. Perhaps not as many features as some of the others. But it's well made and reliable.

Ken Bartenfeld
12-09-2005, 09:25 PM
I like the double thermostats...thats just my opinion :wink:

bugman426
12-11-2005, 06:15 PM
I like the double thermostats...thats just my opinion :wink:

whats the advantage of using more than one?

Brandon
12-13-2005, 12:40 AM
double protection--if the first fails you have a back-up set a few degrees higher that will shut off the heating system.

Ken Bartenfeld
12-13-2005, 10:24 AM
Correct ;-)

Riverside Reptiles
12-13-2005, 11:29 AM
You can double up the Ranco's. Boaphile sells them that way(http://www.boaphileplastics.com/thermostat.html). To be honest though, in many years, I've never had a Ranco fail. Nor do I tend to put tons of animals on one thermostat. So, it's never been an issue for me. If you're going to double up the Ranco's Id suggest learning how to wire them yourself though as it's soooo much cheaper to do it yourself than pay someone else to do it for you. And it really is very simple. For the price of one double Ranco from Boaphile, you could probably make 3 doubles yourself.

bugman426
12-17-2005, 10:27 PM
I ordered my AP, sterilite 1756 (10) rack routed for flexwatt last week and just ordered the Helix DBS 1000 earlier today.

Im not sure if they told you but these racks are routed for 4" heat tape. The only place I've been able to find it is beanfarm.com.

did AP call you? They started wiring racks for 3 inch tape..makes everything easier, and i dont need to use foil tape anymore

Geckospot
12-18-2005, 12:13 AM
They told me they routed it for 4" tape. They also said I dont need the foil.

geckoboy
02-06-2006, 08:44 PM
How about ventilation? How do most people ventilate their rack systems?
Do you leave a gap between the bin and the shelf or do you put ventilation holes in the bins themselves?

bugman426
02-06-2006, 08:55 PM
Well the one i have is perfectly spaced for the bin to fit in with a 1/16 inch gap. But for ventilation, i soldered holes all around the top of the containers

geckoboy
02-06-2006, 10:03 PM
My current setup that I built is very snug fitting around the top edge like yours bugman but there are plenty of holes.
Are holes every inch around the top of the container enough ventilation for knobtails and U. milii?

LarryLockard
02-07-2006, 12:33 PM
Ken,

Are you trying to tell us that your lizards have no invaded your bedroom! :lol:

bugman426
02-07-2006, 12:53 PM
i dont know every inch, i just did it by sight...but theres deff less than an inch between each one, and i have 2 rows

Ken Bartenfeld
02-07-2006, 12:59 PM
Who me?! I am confused... :wink:

geckoboy
02-07-2006, 01:58 PM
Ok, thanks mike. Anyone else...does that seem to be adequate ventilation for U. milii and other Nephrurus species?

bugman426
02-07-2006, 02:17 PM
http://i1.tinypic.com/nd6gir.jpg
http://i1.tinypic.com/nd6gl5.jpg

thats for my milii..hope it helps

geckoboy
02-07-2006, 02:21 PM
perfect. mine looks the same.
thanks

weswright
03-07-2006, 07:40 PM
I like my AP racks. They are extremely easy to assemble, and are very durable, similar to melamine racks but a bit lighter. I have had Boaphile racks in the past, and frankly they were not as well made, and tended to bow over time.


I also was thinking of them, but how often do you have to move your racks? I just set mine up and there I go

Well, I do clean behind mine occasionally :P Sometimes stuff falls behind them, thermostats are plugged in back there.. etc..

Anyway, the reason I ordered one of the Vision racks is because I have this one space left in my gecko room, but it's right in front of a closet that I need to get into. SO I figured a lightweight rack on wheels would be perfect there :D

I'll take pics and let you guys know how I like it. I should be getting the rack any day now. It holds 20 sweater boxes.

Kelli, did you ever get this rack. I was looking into purchasing one, but wanted to get some feed back on it first.

KelliH
03-07-2006, 08:35 PM
For the price, the Vision racks are pretty good. The only complaints I have about them is 1.) Vision only provides one box of heat cable, I needed 2 boxes to heat my rack properly and 2.) some of the boxes stick when opening/closing them. I would say of you do not need a really lightweight rack on wheels, go with AP.

Here's a pic from right after I set it up.
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/photopost/data//500/visionrack.jpg

Jon McMahon
03-08-2006, 01:13 AM
Kelli, Your dog is great! :wink: