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bugman426
12-18-2005, 05:14 PM
I was going through some old Reptiles magazines, and in the July 2001 magazine was an article about unusual geckos. It talks about 3 aussie geckos, one being the asper, and here is what it says:

"Of the three species, N.Asper remains the most expensive and difficult to acquire. Although this coveted desert dweller has dropped from its original price of $5000 per specimen, normal-colored animals are still commanding close to $2000 each. Albino specimens are also available at even higher prices."


Have any of you ever heard of an albino Asper?

Even if it was confused with Amyae, or some other rough knob tail gecko, ive still never seen one of those.

Ken Bartenfeld
12-18-2005, 05:27 PM
Never heard of it, and it probably means albino pilbars or whatever ;-)

Nathan Hall
12-18-2005, 05:34 PM
probably means albino pilbars
exactly

Geckospot
12-18-2005, 05:38 PM
Yeah. Reptiles mag makes mistakes every now and then.

Ok...This is a little off topic...In the May 1996 issue of Reptiles Mag theres an article on breeding knobbies. They refer to the asper as the rough knob tail gecko. All the pics of "asper" look exactly like every pic I've seen of amyae. Did they make a mistake?

bugman426
12-18-2005, 05:38 PM
probably means albino pilbars
exactly

then why would it directly refer to the n. asper--it mentions albino pilbars later in the article seperately, so it cant be the same thing

one sec, ill take a pic so you guys can see

bugman426
12-18-2005, 05:39 PM
Yeah. Reptiles mag makes mistakes every now and then.

Ok...This is a little off topic...In the May 1996 issue of Reptiles Mag theres an article on breeding knobbies. They refer to the asper as the rough knob tail gecko. All the pics of "asper" look exactly like every pic I've seen of amyae. Did they make a mistake?

i was just thinking that too

Geckospot
12-18-2005, 05:39 PM
Do you have that issue Mike?

bugman426
12-18-2005, 05:43 PM
Do you have that issue Mike?

no, i started actually subscribing in 1998, but ive seen the issue youre referring to

bugman426
12-18-2005, 05:44 PM
http://tinypic.com/iqvjx4.jpg


they wouldnt have confused it with Pilbars, because they talk about the levis compex later, and mention albino pilbars then

there was a paragraph on asper, milii, then levis

Nathan Hall
12-18-2005, 05:49 PM
It is a mistake, Mike. Trust me.

bugman426
12-18-2005, 05:51 PM
so then is this at least an asper? or is it amyae

http://tinypic.com/iqvp8z.jpg

Nathan Hall
12-18-2005, 05:59 PM
Do you have that issue Mike?

I think I have 4-5 copies of Casey's article if you want one, Chris. Email your addy.

Geckospot
12-18-2005, 05:59 PM
I'm confused too. These are some pics of the "asper" from the 96 issue. Do asper and amyae look that similar.

http://www.geckospot.com/gallery/albums/userpics/magpics22.JPG

http://www.geckospot.com/gallery/albums/userpics/magpics24.JPG

bugman426
12-18-2005, 06:00 PM
Do you have that issue Mike?

I think I have 4-5 copies of Casey's article if you want one, Chris. Email your addy.

id be interested in that article too if you dont mind, or even if you scan it and post it here

Geckospot
12-18-2005, 06:01 PM
Which article? I have the one from 96. Me email is Chris@Geckospot.com.

bugman426
12-18-2005, 06:02 PM
Which article? I have the one from 96. Me email is Chris@Geckospot.com.

is that issue any helpful, or even relevant to what we know today?

id love to see one for diplodactylus :D

Nathan Hall
12-18-2005, 06:02 PM
That is N. amyae. Although they are different, N. amyae was referred to as N. asper for many years.

Geckospot
12-18-2005, 06:02 PM
It's pretty good. Not much has changed.

bugman426
12-18-2005, 06:03 PM
That is N. amyae. Although they are different, N. amyae was referred to as N. asper for many years.

well that explains it
thanks

Geckospot
12-18-2005, 06:03 PM
Thanks Nathan. I was so confused. :?

Nathan Hall
12-18-2005, 06:04 PM
is that issue any helpful, or even relevant to what we know today?
It is a little dated, but there is still some great information.

Jerry Peebles
12-18-2005, 06:32 PM
Well, heck, I guess this is as good a time as any to let people know about my albino amyae group. Was going to keep it a secret but figured I would rather prove Nathan wrong :D :D :D .

Jerry.

Nathan Hall
12-18-2005, 06:36 PM
Was going to keep it a secret but figured I would rather prove Nathan wrong
LOL. Can we see pics? Don't photoshop some normal amyae...wait...you aren't computer savvy. Smooches!

Jerry Peebles
12-18-2005, 06:38 PM
Yeah, your right, so when I show pictures, it's going to be the real deal!

Jerry.

Geckospot
12-18-2005, 06:39 PM
Well, heck, I guess this is as good a time as any to let people know about my albino amyae group. Was going to keep it a secret but figured I would rather prove Nathan wrong :D :D :D .

Jerry.

You're Kidding right?

bugman426
12-18-2005, 06:40 PM
Well, heck, I guess this is as good a time as any to let people know about my albino amyae group. Was going to keep it a secret but figured I would rather prove Nathan wrong :D :D :D .

Jerry.

You're Kidding right?

haha i cant tell if this is a joke or not either...but if this is serious, id love to see pics

Minhawali
12-19-2005, 05:04 AM
Jerry,

Do you wanna trade some of your albino amyae for some of my 6 legged-melanistic wheeleri-sphyrurus crosses? (they're really fast):roll:

Cheers,
Johan.

aquapimp
12-19-2005, 10:00 AM
Hi guys,

I'm a close friend of Casey's, and purchased my first Nephrurus about that time, right before the article came out.

The "asper" complex was later revised and divided into three taxa. Casey was working with what are now known as amyae.

As Nathan correctly mentioned, the albinos mentioned were/are still N.l.pilbarensis.

An albino amyae woul be insane, however. We can wish, can't we?

Tom Wood

aquapimp
12-19-2005, 10:20 AM
oops....

I threw in my "two cents" before I realized there were two pages of replies. Nathan beat me to the asper/amyae confusion answer. Sorry for the redundancy.

Tom Wood :lol:

Ken Bartenfeld
12-19-2005, 10:46 AM
Ahhh...albino amyae, I actually have had dreams about them...scary eh?! :wink:

Reptiluvr
12-19-2005, 11:53 AM
I saw Nephrurus asper in Daytona. Two animals, only ones I have ever seen. I don't know much about knobtails, not as big of a fan, but I had no idea as to their rarity. However, there were some distinct differences. From what I remember the asper looked quite large. They were definitely MUCH darker than any amyae I've seen (or seen pics of). They were a dark brown almost charcoal color. The overall shape was the same. The asper were uglier for whatever reason, maybe more tuberculate? Unfortunately I don't have the pics I took of those two asper on this computer, they are back at school.