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Ken Bartenfeld
12-20-2005, 12:36 PM
Took me awhile to get this pic...had to wait till he breathed out to actually get it...no worries, he is full...just wondering why this is like this...

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d95/KenBartenfeld/IMG_0930.jpg

Jerry Peebles
12-20-2005, 12:55 PM
Can you get a full-body shot of it? Does its tail, hips, etc looked filled out OK?

Jerry.

Ken Bartenfeld
12-20-2005, 02:34 PM
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d95/KenBartenfeld/IMG_0938.jpg

JBReptiles
12-20-2005, 02:43 PM
What are we lookn at?

Toyvet
12-20-2005, 02:57 PM
Ken, is that protrusion on one side only ? Does it feel bony and fairly sharp to the touch ?
Let me know.
Greg

Brandon Parry
12-20-2005, 07:07 PM
looks like a lump on or around the rib cage area to me. I have not seen that in any of my Oeduras before. Did it just show up and is it getting any bigger?

Ken Bartenfeld
12-20-2005, 08:02 PM
Yes Greg...but also kind of soft... :cry: :oops:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d95/KenBartenfeld/IMG_0939.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d95/KenBartenfeld/IMG_0940.jpg

Added some more pics...what do you think Greg? You definently see what I mean right?

Ken Bartenfeld
12-20-2005, 08:04 PM
I would have to say its been there...I have not done anything with them at all, barely even held them, I try to keep them more natural then docile...I like it more when they are like that...

I just noticed it when I picked him up for the first time...like I said, I never really hold them...

Jerry Peebles
12-20-2005, 08:17 PM
Ken-

I wasn't sure in the fist picture if the gecko was a little skinny and the "lump" was just the ribs showing. With the other pictures, it certainly doesn't look underweight. And I'm not sure what the bump might be.

Jerry.

Ken Bartenfeld
12-20-2005, 08:31 PM
Yeah, I know...in the first pic I had to wait till he looked REALLY skinny and took the shot...when he breathed out. The female looks gravid, but I dunno really about Oedura, check her out...

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d95/KenBartenfeld/IMG_0942.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d95/KenBartenfeld/IMG_0943.jpg

Toyvet
12-20-2005, 09:09 PM
Ken;
I have viewed the additional pics....I dont like to "guess" on medical cases.
Could be a mass, broken rib, cellulitis, abscess, or nothing. I recommend finding an experienced reptile DVM with ultrasound experience and have this area sonogramed. I cannot stress that the DVM have both herp and ULTRASOUND experience... No guessing.....no B.S. PLEASE let me know if you need additional help.
Regards;
Greg

Ken Bartenfeld
12-20-2005, 09:51 PM
Thanks Greg! As usual ;-)

JBReptiles
12-20-2005, 10:46 PM
Might be a fatty spot..were they store fat...some geckos do that...i dont know much about ordura...that female looks gravid....NICE

Nathan Hall
12-20-2005, 10:58 PM
I have a few Oedura that have ribs that protrude like that. I'm not saying that it is superficial, but I have noticed that in the past. Like Greg said, it is hard to give a definitive answer without seeing the gecko in person.

Ken Bartenfeld
12-21-2005, 12:12 AM
I don't really know...heh! I hope its ok though, seems fine. Eats like a pig, these are definently GREAT eaters...I was about to start cooling the two adults, but now I don't know if she is gravid or not...she is huge and even larger now, just ate 2 huge lateralis...;-)

MiCh@3L
12-21-2005, 01:25 AM
Hi Ken,

your female O. coggeri doesn`t look gravid. When Oeduras are gravid it`s easy to see the eggs and they must be placed here:

http://www.oedura.org/pictures/for_forums/ken_coggeri.jpg

But wait some days to be sure! You just can see the eggs, when they are big, around 7 days before laying.

cheers,

Michael

Ari
12-21-2005, 08:13 AM
Ken

100% she looks gravid to me - I maybe wrong??

My opinion only but if she is eating ok & looks healthy & moves around as normal I wouldn't be concerned.

She looks great. If she is gravid, which I 100% reacon she is, is this her first time???

Ken Bartenfeld
12-21-2005, 09:53 AM
Her first time with me...she also has laid before with the previous keeper.

She eats GREAT, feeds like a CHAMP! Who knows, time will tell and I don't ever mind waiting ;-)

Thanks Mike for the picture of where the eggs are suppose to be, that helps alot!

Brandon Parry
12-21-2005, 11:31 AM
she looks like she is ovulating to me. Check her agian in a week or so and see if you see any improvement. Also tell your male to get her done we want to see coggeri babies.

Brandon

Ken Bartenfeld
12-21-2005, 11:40 AM
Yeah...I hope!

herperboy
12-21-2005, 03:34 PM
To me it looks like a scar from possibly being bit earlier on in life. Just my 2 cents though. I would definately seek a professional opinion though.

Toyvet
12-22-2005, 11:10 PM
Ken any update on the coggeri's "bump"?
Greg