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Bowfinger
02-04-2006, 07:33 PM
I am cosidering getting some of these guys but want to look into them a little more. Most pictures online dont look too good so if anyone has better shots of some nice looking ones that would be great.

danscantle
02-04-2006, 08:41 PM
i was supposed to get some a while back - but i got ripped off. (jon divortez, you out there?)

all i can say for sure is they live sympatrically with Uroplatus phantasticus in some regions.

tanala
02-05-2006, 07:15 AM
Hello phantasticus,
i dont have pics, but some info. They are widespread in eastern and northeastern Madagascar. For that, it varies in color and pattern. For keeping and breeding, i would consider the conditions for Uroplatus phantasticus and sikorae as suitable for that species. I found one time one adult specimen in the wild at Andasibe, central-eastern Madagascar. It was too fast to take a picture. I found it at night during heavy rainfall in the same habitat i found Uroplatus phantasticus. Temperature was around 20C, humidity nearly 100%.
Regards
Sebastian

Uroplatus
04-11-2008, 12:46 PM
Before a few years I saw Paroedura gracilis still rare on lists. After information of the exporters P.gracilis is very sensitive in the case of transport. Does someone keep this species still?
Did some with Uroplatus come in?

Further:
found by John Sullivan at Masoala National Park, Toamasina province, Madagascar. Spotted form.
http://www.wildherps.com/images/herps/standard/070502085PD_gecko.jpg

... and
http://interone.jp/~endless/Photo/Lizard/Graceful.jpg
Lined form, photo by Interone Japan (http://interone.jp/~endless/PLgecko.html) (also incredible stocklist) :yikes:.

matoatoa
04-15-2008, 08:53 PM
The two specimens above show the typical pattern and colouration of the populations from the northeastern part of Madagascar. But like all those different Uroplatus aff. phantasticus, P. gracilis for pet trade are collected in the central east (near Fierenana), because it's not far away from the capital, where the exporters are located. P. gracilis from this region don't show such a high-contrast colouration with mostly banded back patterns and (sometimes) blueish tails like they're northern mates. Instead of that, they're brownish and striped, like this one (http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2568648560083306767CgXRnW). Juveniles are entirely black.

Concerning captive care, they seem to be as delicate as P. masobe. Keeping them the same way would be appropriate in my opinion.

Regards,
Morris

Uroplatus
05-23-2008, 01:59 PM
http://dinets.travel.ru/paroedura9.jpg (http://www.picsearch.com/info.cgi?q=uroplatus%20alluaudi&id=tLRul7iiswN0d6JkT3vBEquzTMVxSWIoAzPDKdfwQ8s)

origin:Masoala

matoatoa
05-23-2008, 03:10 PM
http://dinets.travel.ru/paroedura9.jpg (http://www.picsearch.com/info.cgi?q=uroplatus%20alluaudi&id=tLRul7iiswN0d6JkT3vBEquzTMVxSWIoAzPDKdfwQ8s)

origin:Masoala

I'm quite sure that this specimen is not from Masoala but from Montagne d'Ambre. "Gracilis" from there probably belong to a new species, but it's hard to tell. Applicable morphological characters to distinguish it are hard to find and there are simply not enough specimen in collections for a meaningful molecular analysis.

Did you ever try to contact the person who put these photos online? I didn't get an answer when I did some time ago. There are many nice species photographed, but none of the Uroplatus and most of the Paroedura and other herps are misidentified in the captions and even localities mentioned often simply don't fit.

Regards,
Morris

Uroplatus
05-23-2008, 06:08 PM
Hello Morris, I estimates your opinion!

I took up to the photographer no contact, I believe to its data,
partly. It is simply minutes of its recordings. There you can contact it gladly, the left are.

Many greetings to you! ;-)