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Captive_Creations
02-21-2006, 02:01 PM
How do you go about doing such a thing? I've heard many people say they got shipments in, and not huge breeders either. I know Madagascar has an "open" and a "closed" season for importing these specimins, but what else is there to that?

miguel camacho!
02-21-2006, 03:07 PM
youll need 1) importing permits, 2) an exporter, 3) and i think you're going to need a CITES permit or some sort of CITES documentation. and maybe more.

Captive_Creations
02-25-2006, 12:24 AM
I had a very big gut feeling there was a lot of permits involved, but curiousity struck me :) Was juuuuust wondering, thanks!

Nerys
03-10-2006, 01:14 PM
hiya

they are now cities II EU annex B, under Quota set back in december i think it was..

the EU has banned import of them from Mada to EU member states.

Mada to USA has not been banned.. USA to EU is ok with paperwork and breeder/seller receipts and EU to EU is the same..

there are species though, whose quota is set at 0 currently

Nerys

Nerys
03-13-2006, 10:30 AM
FYI these are the quotas in place at the moment

Uroplatus alluaudi 0 live 03.03.05

Uroplatus ebenaui 2 000 live 03.03.05

Uroplatus fimbriatus 2 000 live 03.03.05

Uroplatus guentheri 100 live 03.03.05

Uroplatus henkeli 200 live 03.03.05

Uroplatus lineatus 1 000 live 03.03.05

Uroplatus malahelo 0 live 03.03.05

Uroplatus malama 100 live 03.03.05

Uroplatus phantasticus 2 000 live 03.03.05

Uroplatus pietschmanni 500 live 03.03.05

Uroplatus sikorae 2 000 live 03.03.05

as far as the import into the EU issue, this is the latest position from EU Cities

“European Union baned their import into EU after December 2005. That's true.

If they are acquired legally there is no problem and also no problem if they were breed in captivity in USA with legally obtained parents. If they come from Madagascar to USA and then direct to Europe its not legal.”

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the moof
03-13-2006, 03:34 PM
errm, does that mean that i am not allowed to get them shipped to europe from america? :cry:

regards,
*the moof*

Protean
03-13-2006, 03:52 PM
only if they are WC

the moof
03-13-2006, 04:30 PM
ooh, thats good, thanks!

regards,
*the moof*

muetterthies
03-20-2006, 03:21 PM
Hello. My english is not good.

Jason what means WC?. I´m a friend from patrick and steffi in germany. I have see you in Hamm. We have short speek together.

Christian

L.A.C. Herps
03-20-2006, 03:45 PM
WC stands for Wild Caught... nice to have you around the boards, even if your english isn't so well :)

the moof
03-20-2006, 03:50 PM
hallo christian! wilkommen bei den Forum.

ich schick dir kurz ein "pm" :wink:

regards,
*the moof*

Protean
03-20-2006, 10:27 PM
Christian, nice to hear from you again. Your english is much better than my German :wink: Andrew explained it well, but I'll give you a break down of what we use for terms in the US.

WC - wild caught
CB - captive born
CBB - captive bred and born

Tchauss (the only thing I can say in german so far, I'll make that change though)
Jason

ryanm
03-21-2006, 01:45 AM
Monkey - You mean tschüß! :wink:

Christian,

Es gibt einige leute hier wer Deutsches sprechen. Obgleich ich vermutlich nicht an ihm das beste bin, gefühl frei zur privater anzeige oder zu email ich, wenn Sie hilfe etwas übersetzend benötigen.

Ich nehme auch auf der terraristikecke.de forum teil, aber es ist im augenblick defekt.

viele grüß,
ryanm

muetterthies
03-21-2006, 02:23 PM
Thank you ryanm. But I will in this forum wriding in english. So I can learn the Language.
Thank you for the Information Jason.

Christian

the moof
03-21-2006, 02:26 PM
haha ryanm, your grammar is terrible :wink: but i can forgive you, because mine is usually pretty bad too :P

regards,
*the moof*

ryanm
03-21-2006, 04:39 PM
haha ryanm, your grammar is terrible :wink: but i can forgive you, because mine is usually pretty bad too :P
Yeah, I know. I'm American, that's my excuse. :oops:

You live right next door to Germany, what's your excuse? :twisted:

The trouble is, I only get a chance to speak German on web forums, no one I know in Texas speaks any languages but Engligsh and Spanish, so I'm terribly out of practice. I was reasonably proficient in high school, but that's been 15 years ago. :oops:

ryanm

the moof
03-21-2006, 04:41 PM
haha, well, i live in switzerland, so i get crap swiss german here. üöä etc. are used eccesively. i also go to an international school, so shhhh! :P i am sorta fathertongue german, though i really didnt speak a word of it until 6 years ago. :P

regards,
*the moof*

muetterthies
04-01-2006, 01:28 AM
@the moof for you is it not a Problem ti impoting unroplatus from Madagaskar. Your Country is not in the Europäische Union. So you can impoting from Madagaskar. Only the EU Countrys have an impoting stop to uroplatus :x
For me in Germany is that a Problem.
:D i have 2 Eggs from henkeli :D (my first)

Protean
04-01-2006, 03:40 AM
It is a problem if he isn't buying a few hundred at a time....

Jason

the moof
04-01-2006, 04:09 AM
precisely... but who said i wont :) :twisted: :P The problem i have is that uroplatus are not readily available at all, and when they are, they disappear within the first days of being available.

regards,
*the moof*

Uropl@tus
04-02-2006, 08:34 AM
Hello

@Christian: Nice to see you on Geckosunlimited!

We have to ask Nathan to put a "teaching German" Forum on this Hompage. :D

I hope that our government think the same about the regulations of importing CB and CBB animals from the US in the EU. If this will work it will be fine. Otherwise I think we will have problems with some Uroplatus species. Especially the "colder" species are not as much breed as they have to, to etablish a constant population in our terrariums. :(

Best Regards Patrick