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Uropl@tus
06-29-2006, 02:32 PM
Hello

A friend of mine purchased to females of Rhacodactylus leachianus ssp.

The problem we have is to find out the right morph or subspecies perhaps somebody can help us!
The animals are 1,5 years old. The first one is 8,2 inches in body and 3,5 inches in tale.
The second animal is 7,8 inches in body and and 3,5 inches in tale.

The pictures of animal 1:

http://www.reptilienbilder.de/data/media/7/DSCN3794_2.jpg

http://www.reptilienbilder.de/data/media/7/DSCN3812.JPG


The picture of animal 2:

http://www.reptilienbilder.de/data/media/7/DSCN3796_2.jpg

Thanks

bleeding_sarcasm
06-29-2006, 11:01 PM
good luck, no matter how fantastic the pictures, no one is going to be able to tell you the locale, and the only way to find out is to trace back the bloodlines to the breeder, and even farther back.

gecko in picture #2 has the starts of zig zag tail, id give her a little extra calcium or a trip outside in the sun.

Uropl@tus
06-30-2006, 01:05 AM
Hello

No It's not a zig zag tail. It onlylooks like that in the photo. I think there where typical charateristics in each morph. E.g. it's no problem to recognize the dark morph (Mt. Koghis) or Rhacodactylus l. henkeli and in the Rhacodactylus book of Vosjoli et al. tells typical characteristics too. I have my opinion about the locality of the two geckos but wanted you all to say what you think. Perhaps I'm wrong. Were are the Rhacodaytylus freaks here in the forum. What do they think?

Best Regards Patrick

MiCh@3L
06-30-2006, 01:45 AM
Hi Patrick,

did you already send the pics to Willi? I guess he`s the right person to help you.

ciao,

Michael

bleeding_sarcasm
06-30-2006, 02:38 AM
ive had females that have had slight zig zag tail that looked exactly like that quite a few times. id bump up their calcium and it would go away. just a suggestion.

kozmo
06-30-2006, 04:19 AM
Uropl@tus, I was involved in a thread on another forum about leachianus locale in which I felt fairly confident on what locale they most likely were, but even Allen Repashy jumped in and said that without tracing it back to where they came from, what breeder, where they were originally collected, and so on it is just about impossible to be 100% sure on the locale.

The long tails are general characteristics of GT's, however, it may not always be a pure GT, leachianus have been cross bred quite heavily unfortunately and a lot of breeders don't even know what they have, which only leads to further confusion because they sell an animal based around what they THINK it is, and it may not necessarily be that locale.

Phillipe de Vosjoli was involved with the thread as well and gave a more definite answer because he had collected them in the wild and was familiar with their characteristics, but I think it has been pretty much unanimously agreed upon that without tracing it back, we can never be certain.