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Palex134
07-04-2006, 01:01 AM
anyone have any pics of Lygodactylus williamsi? I have heard they are a gorgeous blue! Thanks

bugman426
07-04-2006, 01:11 AM
There is a picture of one in one of the books i own, but im not sure if it would be legal to post it, since it says on the inside basically "dont post pics from this book without permission"

but yes, its bright bright blue

Palex134
07-04-2006, 01:13 AM
ill take your word for it,
are they ever imported?

bugman426
07-04-2006, 01:14 AM
ill take your word for it,
are they ever imported?

i was told very few ever were, and the ones that were did horrible in captivity

Palex134
07-04-2006, 01:15 AM
shame,
thanks for the quick info!

bugman426
07-04-2006, 01:16 AM
edit: the book is professional breeder series: day geckos

every thread you make is about geckos in this book..you really need to get it already :lol:

Palex134
07-04-2006, 05:33 PM
seriously!
I will look into that!

Someone must have some L. Willamsi!

Geitje
07-05-2006, 07:20 PM
This species is known from only one area inside of a protected forest (wildlife reserve). Furthermore, I believe that Tanzania lists this species as endangered. Tanzania has also tightened up their exports, and quotas, showing they have some degree of awareness for wildlife protection. There are a couple of decent photos in the Reptiles of Eastern Africa by Spawls, et. al. Males must be a difficult subject to photograph due to the intensity of the blue coloration.

Jon

Ivan
09-20-2007, 08:45 AM
Here you have some pictures from a male

Haroldo
09-20-2007, 11:37 AM
Here you have some pictures from a male

I assume this is your animal Ivan? If so, how are you keeping them?

Thanks for sharing those wonderful pictures!

Ivan
09-20-2007, 11:58 AM
I only started a few weeks ago with them, I rather wait with giving info (until I have more experience with them).

Haroldo
09-20-2007, 12:08 PM
I only started a few weeks ago with them, I rather wait with giving info (until I have more experience with them).

Fair enough. I will look forward to some updates...

Lygodactylus
09-20-2007, 02:22 PM
And here are some pics of a female;-)
http://www.gekkowerkgroep.nl/gallery/albums/userpics/10035/PICT0003_%28Medium%29.JPG
http://www.gekkowerkgroep.nl/gallery/albums/userpics/10035/PICT0004_%28Medium%29.JPG
http://www.gekkowerkgroep.nl/gallery/albums/userpics/10035/PICT0008_%28Medium%29.JPG

And for me it's the same as for Ivan, I won't give any captivity information until I have more experience with this species.

Palex134
09-20-2007, 02:24 PM
There were some on Kingsnake a few months back

porphyriacus
10-23-2007, 04:38 PM
Does anyone know the sex difference in williamsi?

H

sanderfrog
10-29-2007, 06:06 PM
Hello

Dominant males are bright blue with a black throat and visible preanale pores and hemipenile bulges. The females are greenisch with a copperish shade and have almost no black throat just a few stripes on the throat.females can get easily mixed up with juvenile males, these are also green with sometimes a blueish shade but the best way for sex determination is to look at the pores and the hemipenile bulges.

regards Sander

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11-05-2007, 09:59 AM
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This species has got to be one of the rarest and prettiest species in
the US at the moment. These guys are stunning in person and emit a
glow that can be seen from quite a distance away. For those of you that
own the Field guide to East african Reptiles that picture is very much
comparable to what an adult male looks like in full display. These guys
grown fast and breed rapidly and would make an ideal investment for the
experienced gecko collector looking for something out of the ordinary

We have a couple of younger subadult animals(sexes are not %100 but I
am pretty sure on the sexing).

We are asking $1250/pair including Fedex overnight shipping to anywhere
in the US.

animal pictured is an adult, available animals are subadults

For more info contact,

Nick Mole
First Choice Reptiles
nick@firstchoicereptiles.com
321-373-1498
First Choice Reptiles (http://www.firstchoicereptiles.com)


URL: First Choice Reptiles (http://www.firstchoicereptiles.com)


They are a little more expensive that I would have thought, but cool geckos.

Michael

Brandon Parry
11-06-2007, 07:48 PM
does any one have any info on how big adults are?

vierfleck
11-07-2007, 02:02 AM
Hello,

the literatur i own says,that adults are smaller than 60mm.

regards
Matthias

sanderfrog
11-07-2007, 04:00 PM
Hello
Theyre about 8 cm total length.
regards Sander

Brandon Parry
11-07-2007, 05:03 PM
60mm sounds really small, can anyone else confirm 80mm?

Ivan
11-08-2007, 07:33 AM
I just had the opportunity to measure one of my pairs because they were both on the front window. The male of this pair is about 75 mm and the female 70 mm.

Brandon Parry
11-13-2007, 02:30 PM
do you believe them to be full grown at that size?

sanderfrog
11-13-2007, 02:41 PM
Yes

Brandon Parry
11-13-2007, 06:05 PM
any ideas on the sex they are around 60-65mm in size

http://www.hrreptiles.com/female1.jpg
http://www.hrreptiles.com/female2.jpg

sanderfrog
11-14-2007, 11:17 AM
The second pic is a female the first one could be a male, but I'm not sure because I cant see the hemipenises, though I see alot of mites on both of them better keep them quaranteened.

regards Sanderfrog

Brandon Parry
11-14-2007, 11:29 AM
Yeah I have been treating them for mites, are pores easily seen on your male?

sanderfrog
11-14-2007, 04:39 PM
Yes its the light V shape you see on pic 1

Brandon Parry
11-14-2007, 06:12 PM
ok thanks I thought it would have been more visable

sanderfrog
11-15-2007, 05:01 PM
They normally are more visable when I look at my own specimen. Thats also why i'm not sure if it is a male. does the one on pic 1 have a black throat (like on the pic of Lygodactylus) or some striping?

Brandon Parry
11-15-2007, 05:11 PM
striping, here's a underside picture http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/hrreptiles/PB127835lygo.jpg

sanderfrog
11-16-2007, 02:45 PM
This is definetly a female

Brandon Parry
11-16-2007, 05:02 PM
based on what the throat coloration? The other female I have has no pores present and has a full black throat.

sanderfrog
11-17-2007, 03:06 PM
This looks like a full grown specimen not a young animal and its not based on just throat coloration (Though males always have black throats) but on this pic the pores are hardly visible and no hemipenises seem to be present.
In my opinion you've got 2 females

Lygodactylus
11-18-2007, 06:59 PM
I agree with sanderfrog, 2 females, pores are usually better visible, and the light ventral side and throat is definitaly feminine. The pictures I posted are not female but male, although it's not that blue. But I only realized that when I saw and got real females, the difference is clear, once you've seen it.

stevec153
02-07-2008, 09:40 PM
I will be getting a few pairs of these, any hints on care other than keep them like phelsuma?

Tariq Stark
02-09-2008, 12:07 PM
This species is known from only one area inside of a protected forest (wildlife reserve). Furthermore, I believe that Tanzania lists this species as endangered. Tanzania has also tightened up their exports, and quotas, showing they have some degree of awareness for wildlife protection. There are a couple of decent photos in the Reptiles of Eastern Africa by Spawls, et. al. Males must be a difficult subject to photograph due to the intensity of the blue coloration.

Jon

Indeed Jon, that's what I thought. Anyone has any thought about this matter? Is creating a Studbook for this species an idea? It would be a shame if this species would "disappear after a few years (like so many species have throughout the years)......

Tariq

sanderfrog
02-09-2008, 04:17 PM
Maybe I'll get lucky!

regards Sander

Ken Bartenfeld
02-17-2008, 10:25 AM
Hopefully you will!

rhacoboy
03-03-2008, 10:49 PM
i've seen some available in the states. They're like 1200-1300/pr. They looked healthy to me?....?.....

philipniceguy
04-01-2008, 05:56 PM
i have myself 4 males and 3 females i didn't know how to tell them apart when i got my first four now its easy my adult males are electric blue the 2 sub adults are greenish blue but my 3 adult females are green with a hint of brown no blue at all. had to treat all of them for red mites but seem to be gone now so hopefully ill have some eggs i was told by a friend the babys are only 6mm long how tiny is that:biggrin: http://www.geckosunlimited.com/community/gallery/data/500/thumbs/lygodactylus_WILLIAMSI_my_group.JPG (http://www.geckosunlimited.com/community/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=905)

Styx
04-04-2008, 04:08 AM
I wish there were more of these in the US, I want some so bad!

philipniceguy
04-04-2008, 02:07 PM
i found they love just born ****roachs anyone with any get some trust me

sanderfrog
04-04-2008, 04:24 PM
Nice animals,
but I can assure you hatchlings are bigger than 6mm more like 20mm (total length)

regards Sander

philipniceguy
04-04-2008, 04:47 PM
really have you had any babies? if so any info on what to do would be great eg size of eggs what temp to put them at how long so on i would be greatful

lee-travis
04-14-2008, 02:45 PM
i have seen them available in holland and germany and were imported into europe for the first time ever this year i believe. They started of pretty expensive but i have now seen them available for 90 euro each.

daygecko
04-22-2008, 08:42 AM
Here are a couple of photos of my blue geckos getting it on! I originally bought two males by mistake, one being green and the other blue. The green one has since turned more blue. I bought a female and both subsequenly mated with her on the same day.

philipniceguy
04-22-2008, 09:35 AM
thats great to see them mating let me know how it goes please

daygecko
04-25-2008, 06:59 AM
Hi
Some questions:
how long does it take it takes for females once mated to lay their eggs?
Where are the eggs usually laid (gluers or non gluers)?
How long do they take to hatch?

Much appreciated

Paul

BlackMetalMaster
04-27-2008, 03:55 AM
Hi Paul,
I can only speak for myself:
I observed matings on Jan 12th and had the first clutch of eggs on Feb 7th.
They glued the eggs in the corner on the top of the tank.
Mine hatched after 68 and 69 days.
Br,
Chris

philipniceguy
04-30-2008, 04:44 PM
i have now seen my mating they were mating for over 2 mins which is long compaired to leopard geckos. i tried to take pics but they was behind a plant none were any good to post. i have a ? for chris did you take the eggs out of the cage or protect them inside somehow? as fingers crossed ill have some eggs in a month. hopefully

philipniceguy
06-05-2008, 06:33 PM
eggs laid today stuck to top of tank

Kevin McRae
06-05-2008, 09:34 PM
Just for anyone interested, PCPC a shop near Toronto, Canada is selling pairs for $299.

'stoph
06-11-2008, 03:48 PM
I bought this one as a female, what do you guys think
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/jarrafatti/Lygodactylus/lygofemales.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/jarrafatti/Lygodactylus/closeupJPG.jpg


this is the male
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/jarrafatti/Lygodactylus/lygomales2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/jarrafatti/Lygodactylus/lygomales.jpg

philipniceguy
06-11-2008, 05:01 PM
it looks like a female to me going by my three but if its under 6 months old it could be a male not yet matured.

philipniceguy
06-11-2008, 07:09 PM
http://www.geckosunlimited.com/community/gallery/data/500/thumbs/PICT0913x.jpg (http://www.geckosunlimited.com/community/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=1289) them mating again http://www.geckosunlimited.com/community/gallery/data/500/thumbs/PICT0924.JPG (http://www.geckosunlimited.com/community/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=1290) female with eggs note cover to protect eggs

geckoboy
06-12-2008, 11:26 AM
[QUOTE='stoph;186131]I bought this one as a female, what do you guys think
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/jarrafatti/Lygodactylus/closeupJPG.jpg
QUOTE]

It's a male. There are hemipenal bulges and femoral pores, both quite visible. The colour of the gecko doesn't mean anything with Lygodactylus williamsi as females and juvie males look pretty much identical.

'stoph
06-12-2008, 11:32 AM
yeah if you look at all the pics i've seen so far all animals seem to suffer from mites too. So during mite cleaning, i checked again, I'm also quite sure it's a male now.
I've contacted the store to switch it for a female.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/jarrafatti/Lygodactylus/malebls.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/jarrafatti/Lygodactylus/malegrs.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/jarrafatti/Lygodactylus/maless.jpg

Zach Whitman
02-06-2009, 01:59 AM
Does anyone know where these are coming from now? I have seen some wild caughts for very low prices. Did tanzania export them? Are the ones coming in now legally collected?