View Full Version : gravid or guts?

09-12-2006, 06:18 PM
I can easily tell with my lugubris, but the female klemmeri is tricky. could these be early eggs, or just guts and junk?
these pics were so hard to get, she looks fatter, and I had seen her on the glass near the cyprus at the bottom of the exo terra, which suprised me.

what do you think?
sorry for the bad pics

09-12-2006, 06:20 PM
Pretty much gravid

Joe Farah
09-12-2006, 06:21 PM
howdy fellas!

09-12-2006, 06:29 PM

any more opinions?!

09-12-2006, 06:32 PM

09-12-2006, 06:35 PM
Kenya you still have thouse barbouri?Ill be getting some soon.Any care tips?

Joe Farah
09-12-2006, 06:50 PM
The white ball her side facing the ground is DEFINATELY an egg. The other yellowish one could be, but Im not sure. But yeah, she's gravid.

09-12-2006, 06:55 PM
amazing! can't wait!

09-12-2006, 06:56 PM
I ended up trading them off, but I really liked them. I just needed the cage space for my felinus and elok. I decided to concentrate on things that didn't need a heat source. The Phelsuma that I did keep are in my dart frog tank, so that works out perfectly.

They are a totally different Phelsuma. They like a tank set up with sand and slab rocks. They still want a bask that gets 85-90, misting once a day to every other day. Can take peaches, but aren't as avid about them. Prefer crickets over roaches (roaches hide too quickly), but will also eat meal worms. Feed about every other day. Try not to let them get too fat because this can slow down laying. Eggs are laid in the cage glued to a rock. It's best if they are left to hatch in situ, they guard their eggs. They typically won't harm their young. They are best kept in pairs only. Don't have one established before the other, there can be agression due to territorality.

09-12-2006, 07:00 PM
Ill be getting some from Rich.Takeing his pair.I got a 10 gallon ill use for them.Give them sand,eco earth mix.Plenty of rocks and a nice hott spot.so they should have a relitive low humidity?

09-12-2006, 07:12 PM
A 10G is fine, misting once a day should be fine for humidity, use a screen top. It will drop much lower than most phelsuma, but should be fine for them.

09-16-2006, 02:58 PM
some updated pics of her:

09-16-2006, 03:29 PM
Ide say thouse are eggs man..Probly a week or 2 and youll have some eggs.

09-16-2006, 04:20 PM
With the change in position of the eggs I bet she lays within the week.

09-16-2006, 04:34 PM
they dont look big enough yet. I have heard they lay huge eggs for their body.

09-16-2006, 04:40 PM
BUt shes also an older female.

Joe Farah
09-16-2006, 07:26 PM
yeah you've got a few weeks yet

Ken Bartenfeld
09-21-2006, 09:23 PM
Congrats on the gravid girl!

09-22-2006, 02:19 PM
she is still a little nugget, and looking well. I havent seen her on the glass lately, so I cant see the eggs yet, but shes even fatter now.

Thanks again Joe! ill keep an eye out! Thanks for the call.

Elizabeth Freer
09-22-2006, 07:25 PM
Jeff ~

Care Tips on Breeding Phelsuma barbouri:

One tip I received from Leann Christenson, an experienced Phelsuma barbouri breeder, is to keep only 1.1 Phelsuma barbouri in a horizontal 15 gallon tank. She has noted aggression keeping a pair in a 10 gallon setup. The substrate should consist of a mixture, 50/50, of washed fine grade orchid bark and cocopeat fiber. Construct multiple caves for them with flat pieces of slate. These guys are hungry for fluorescent lighting. Leann and I use two cool compact UltraLights by Westek per cage with incandescents for warmth and for basking spots. These lights come in 13" and 17" lengths. One of my female P barbouri will take crickets right from my hand :wink:

Post ElizabethFreer@aol.com for further info.

Brandon Parry
09-22-2006, 08:09 PM
Elizabeth I do believe you have some incorrect information klemmeri like arboreal setups so a 15 gallon horizontal will be to short. I keep mine in taller than wider cages with no less than 18" of vertical space. Caves on the ground will be of no use as klemmeri are mainly off the ground and up on perches.