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jaysommers
06-01-2007, 07:46 PM
Lygodactylus sp. from E.Africa

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a214/JaySommers/RSCN4861.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a214/JaySommers/RSCN4860.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a214/JaySommers/RSCN4859.jpg

and L.kimhowelli for fun

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a214/JaySommers/RSCN4300.jpg

Brian
06-01-2007, 09:41 PM
Nice looking geckos. Is the first pic from the wild?

Palex134
06-01-2007, 10:49 PM
thanks for the pics, I really enjoyed the Lygodactylus kimhowelli picture, not much else beats a nice looking CB kimhowelli

Rhacryce
06-01-2007, 11:46 PM
Awesome pics man,put me on the list for all of them!!!

dactylus
06-02-2007, 05:01 AM
Great to see some pics of Lygodactylus.sp.....

...quality photos, thanks!

the moof
06-02-2007, 05:53 AM
wow! that species is beauitful! i love the tail :)

good luck with those babies too ;)

best regards,
Mark

johanna
06-03-2007, 02:56 AM
Hi,

they look's like Lygodactylus capensis capensis....

regards Johanna

jaysommers
06-04-2007, 11:47 AM
Johanna,

Can you support your statement?I have not yet been able to key this out.I have never seen any capensis like this.I would need something more than a labeled photograph to agree.I am not saying you are wrong, I just need a valid key.

Jay

Palex134
06-04-2007, 02:11 PM
it looks similar to L. conradti or maybe mirabilis.

johanna
06-04-2007, 03:38 PM
Hi Jay,

one of my friends has some of this species and Dr. Beate Röll said that they are Lygodactylus capensis capensis. I'm sure that these look similar to yours on the photos :wink:

Johanna

jaysommers
06-04-2007, 05:46 PM
well,B.Roll knows Lygodactylus.However,I would need something more than similarity to definitively label the photo's.Other than the keys I have the problem is I need a deceased specimen or really a group so I can have a broad base to compare from.Again I am not saying you are wrong I just need proof.

Haroldo
06-05-2007, 12:25 PM
I'm with Bobby, go ahead and put me on the list for them! Very nice specimens.

Davis
07-11-2007, 12:43 AM
Nice pictures Jay. They make me feel...well I guess kind of like when I choke myself and watch the 700 Club...I guess happy would be the proper adjective. :D . Really though those are some cool geckos.


Take it easy Jay,

Davis

Schneeflocke
08-21-2007, 06:25 AM
Hello Jay,

I wanted to show you my Lygodactylus (which looks exactly similar to yours) but I am not able to post an internet adress, perhaps you can look under "pbase" - "schneeflocke" - "reptilien" "lygodactylus_capensis" (in my signature....)


Best regards, Birgit

jaysommers
08-22-2007, 01:01 PM
Birgit,

Yes the same species.Nice to see you are having success with them.I will contact you shortly to discuss these and some other things.

Best,
Jay

I am still at a loss as to why everyone thinks this is L.c.capensis.There are many problems with this label.Someone refered to B.Rolle identifying this species as Lygodactylus capensis capensis.By doing so she (rolle) is contradicting herself in a piece she wrote in April of 07.I suspected these were a form of L. scheffleri at first.I just found this article by Rolle 5 minutes ago and read it for the first time.She states that this might be a possibilty.My other suspicion was that these were either L.grotei(capensis) grotei.If this is a valid species this is probably the case but depending on taxonomy and what allegiences you have it is either full species status or a sub of capensis.The fact that these animals came from Tanzania pretty much discounts the possibility of them being the nominate species.Every key to the genus Lygodactylyus that I have seen and especially for the nominate species capensis capensis voids the possibiltiy that this animal is the nominate species. It's coloration and pattern alone ,by discription, are in direct conflict with it's ability to be L.c.capensis.

Schneeflocke
08-23-2007, 08:41 AM
Hello Jay,

so as I understand you - you do not believe, that this species could be L. capensis capensis?

Sorry - my english is not so good..........


Best regards, Birgit

jaysommers
08-23-2007, 09:37 AM
Yes,
I do not believe these to be the nominate species.First of all they come from too far north to technically be L.c.capensis(according to most literature).I understand that what appears to be L.c.capensis comes in but I think maybe they are not.I don't even know if these are considered a subspecies of capensis at this time.They might be full species status L.grotei, a subspecies of capensis ,or something new.I am not sure,it might be that noone is certain at this point.The taxonomy of East African (actually almost all)species of Lygodactylus is a mess.Do you have any keys to the species?If not I can scan some and some lit. for you and send it privately.For now you can check this out.

http://www.springerlink.com/content/m12161475887t577/