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kouneli
07-10-2013, 07:29 PM
So I had posted this in reply to a thread on another forum, and was hoping that the same person posted here, but apparently not. Looking to get some answers on how my normal x SHTCT / Tremper albino babies can look more like snows than my super snow x high yellow babies. Other than the one that posted in the other forum, has anyone here seen this happen before? If it weren't for the fact that these babies came out normal, I'd be thinking that the male (normal) is actually a snow.

Here are the actual snows...both super snow x high yellow...hatched 5/10/13
Banshee
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/191/9/c/banshee_at_2_months_old___2_by_fuzzybuttbunny-d6cw5ku.jpg
and Boo
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/191/7/e/boo_at_2_months_old___2_by_fuzzybuttbunny-d6cw6cu.jpg


Here are the ones that aren't supposed to look this light...Each of these were born as normal looking black/yellow babies but have really lightened up. None of which are in shed, in fact one of them (Bourbon) shed just 2 days ago.
Bobbie...normal x tremper albino...hatched 5/8/13
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/191/d/9/bobbie_at_2_months_old___1_by_fuzzybuttbunny-d6cw4hi.jpg

Bronx...normal x tremper albino...hatched 5/21/13. This one does have an orangish tinge on some parts, but primarily a very light yellow along the back.
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/191/b/b/bronx_at_1_5_months_old___2_by_fuzzybuttbunny-d6cw9e6.jpg

And the most affected...
Bourbon...normal x SHTCT...hatched 5/18/13.
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/191/b/c/bourbon_at_almost_2_months_old___1_by_fuzzybuttbun ny-d6cw7zx.jpg

The father, Gibbs, of the last three...
http://th02.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/302/a/f/gibbs_the_leopard_gecko_by_fuzzybuttbunny-d4edymt.jpg

The mother, Abby, of Bourbon...
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/302/f/8/abby_the_leopard_gecko_by_fuzzybuttbunny-d4edzr7.jpg

The mother, Kensi, of Bobbie and Bronx...
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/302/4/3/kensi_the_leopard_gecko_by_fuzzybuttbunny-d4edzdr.jpg

So even if Bourbon was a snow, I don't see how since neither parent looks to be a snow. Gibbs does have some orange specks in his tail, so I'm 99% sure he's a normal.

acpart
07-10-2013, 08:44 PM
Two possibilities: one of the parents of the presumed non-snows is actually a snow, or you're just lucky enough to have really light non-snow geckos. I had an interesting, similar thing happen recently: I bred my male hypo snow het eclipse to a new female that was sold to me as a Montanus Aptor het eclipse. Imagine my surprise when the first clutch hatched: an eclipse (no biggie there) and a super snow! The female doesn't look snow but she must be. This was especially weird since my female snow, paired with the same male (and no, I didn't get my eggs mixed up) has produced 13 babies this season but no super snows yet!

Aliza

kouneli
07-10-2013, 08:56 PM
Time to get myself a female snow, then I guess. lol See if I get any super snows from Gibbs. All babies look to be males at this point in time, so I doubt I'll have any possible snow females to breed to my super snow to see if these babies are in fact snows.

But even if they were snows, would it be possible for them to have the normal hatchling coloration? I know that generally snows hatch as black/white (though Banshee and Boo were black with a light shade of yellow).

Conched
07-11-2013, 05:34 AM
They are very nice looking Leo's ! Best of luck with them.

acpart
07-11-2013, 07:49 PM
I have had a snow female that produced babies that were oh-so-faintly yellow whether or not they were snow. It got to the point where I had to sell some of them as "possible snow" because I just wasn't sure, although in that case, they were all getting yellower, not whiter. I held one back in the hopes that she was a snow and she did produce some definite snows with a non-snow male. She's the one paired with the snow that's produced the 13 hatchlings. I guess you'll just have to prove out a holdback if you keep one. They're very pretty.

Aliza