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    Quote Originally Posted by icatsang View Post
    Hi Elizabeth, can I use this one Zoo Med Bearded Dragon Food Juvenile to feed the cricket? I am currently feeding the crickets with milk powder, bee pollen , spirulina, apple, carrot , cucumber and any veggie available on that day. Should i remove milk powder and replace soybean meal?
    Zoo Med's Natural JUVENILE Bearded Dragon Food would be OK. Make sure it's that specific one! Since where ever you'd be getting this from stocks the JUVENILE product, can they special order the ADULT product?

    Milk powder usually contains vitamin A palmitate. That's GOOD! Palmitate is somewhat like vitamin A acetate (retinol). DON'T remove the milk powder.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by icatsang View Post
    I am confused.

    I am thinking to feed her 3 times a week, the first feed with be crickets dusted with calcium +D3, (Monday), and second feed (Wednesday) with homemade paste dusted with calcium +d3 +probiotic(mixed with dry mealworm powder + canned silkworm and canned grasshoppers ), and the third feed on Friday will be Grub Pie (mainly black solider fly larvae meal with 43% protein and i give her 3 days to digest). Is that ok?

    Grub Pie = 40% dry weight protein. When you mix Grub Pie with 2-3 parts water the protein levels = 1/3 to 1/4 of 40%. Grub Pie also contains Vitamin D Supplement & Vitamin A Supplement. Live silkworms contain Vitamin A (retinol).
    1 part Grub Pie + 2 parts water = 3 parts total
    1 part Grub Pie + 3 parts water = 4 parts total

    ONLY add D3 calcium to 1 feeding per week! If she did not eat on Monday, add D3 calcium to Wednesday's meal.
    I don't see why you need to use Repashy's Super HyD (high D3) at all. Vitamin D3 is fat soluble. One dose sticks around in a gecko's body for about one week. Vitamin D3 will "work on" plain calcium carbonate all week long. I would have added more frequent plain calcium when your N. asper had been gravid. I don't see any reason to increase the frequency of D3. Reptivite with D3 contains enough D3 when used @ 1 feeding per week.

    Depending upon the type of gout, there is a medication that extends a gecko's life a little. This thread may contain useful information.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 05-04-2019 at 09:16 PM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Zoo Med's Natural JUVENILE Bearded Dragon Food would be OK. Make sure it's that specific one! Since where ever you'd be getting this from stocks the JUVENILE product, can they special order the ADULT product?

    Milk powder usually contains vitamin A palmitate. That's GOOD! Palmitate is somewhat like vitamin A acetate (retinol). DON'T remove the milk powder.
    Thanks. I am going to call the shop and hope i can do the special order. I just find out vitamin C and cherry can help to absorb the uric acid. Is that ok to give orange to crickets for gut loading?
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    Quote Originally Posted by icatsang View Post
    Thanks. I am going to call the shop and hope i can do the special order. I just find out vitamin C and cherry can help to absorb the uric acid. Is that ok to give orange to crickets for gut loading?
    You're welcome!

    "Feeding oranges to crickets" is fine!

    Here's a chart to help you out.
    "A commercial gut loading food like Bug Burger or Superload (both by Repashy), Cricket Crack, Dinofuel, etc. is going to make your life easier AND provide a nutritious diet to your crickets at the same time. Avoid Fluker's gutloads, as they are super feeble in their formulas."

    "If you opt for making your own gutload at home, here is a list of great ingredients to use:
    Best: mustard greens, turnip greens, dandelion flowers & leaves, collard greens, escarole lettuce, papaya, watercress, and alfalfa.
    Good: sweet potato, carrots, oranges, mango, butternut squash, kale, apples, beet greens, blackberries, bok choy, and green beans.
    Dry food: bee pollen, organic non-salted sunflower seeds, spirulina, dried seaweed, flax seed, and organic non-salted almonds.
    Avoid as much as possible: potatoes, cabbage, iceberg lettuce, romaine lettuce, spinach, broccoli, tomatoes, corn, grains, beans, oats, bread, cereal, meat, eggs, dog food, cat food, fish food, canned or dead insects, vertebrates."
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 05-04-2019 at 09:18 PM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
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    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
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    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Just wondering whether warm bath can help to remove the uric acid from body through urate? Yesterday I gave my gecko a warm bath (I put her in 30c warm water for 1 mintue and I massaged her belly for 10 second in the warm water). This morning, I found her loose stool with solid urate. Because of this, she lost 2g. Wondering is that good for her? If yes, how often i can give her a warm bath?

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