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Old 07-06-2007, 01:02 PM
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Default New Genetic Color Mutation

The story:

In 1992 after producing about 100 coleonyx v. v. babies, I was fortunate enough to produce an awesome albino animal, which was a female and perfect, but was unfortunately not able to produce fertile eggs ever in its 3 + year life. It was a great experience, but somehow bittersweet due to the fact that I could never produce any more. Here is the picture, it is bad quality, because it is a picture of a picture (no jpegs back then). It was published in Dactylus back then, for anyone my age or older, which was very cool.



Now after 15 years, I have a new animal that I actually road collected as a juvie, in the same spot as the parents of the other albino. IT IS A MALE luckily and almost an adult. I plan to breed him to other animals from the area in hope of achieving this color again. The eyes are normal, but as you can see the color is reversed.

So, for all you genetics experts out there, what is this mutation? I would love some feedback.

Here are some pics of the animal and a female from the same area:




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It looks amelanistic to me, as I don't see any pigment on him, besides the eyes. Do you have any closesr pictures of the eyes? Whatever it is, he's a great animal and I look forward to seeing hatchlings the same color. Good luck.
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looks more hypomelanistic to me, but then again Id assume an amelanistic and a hypomelanistic look similar with these coleonyx. If you can get an eye picture, it may be easier to determine.

Amel would be more pink and yellow, where hypo would be tans and pale colors.
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It looks very similar to this one (not mine). Hypo? If it is, it is a very strong hypo.
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Hello,

are there any news about this project?

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Default Amel banded

As far as this project, I was able to produce two babies this year. One normal and one that looks just like this amel male from breeding this male to a normal female from the same area. The offspring are both females. I will breed the female back to the male next year, and see if I can get this color to be constant in the offspring. After that I plan to breed this color pattern with an almost patternless female and try to get an all white coleonyx v.v.

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As far as this project, I was able to produce two babies this year. One normal and one that looks just like this amel male from breeding this male to a normal female from the same area. The offspring are both females. I will breed the female back to the male next year, and see if I can get this color to be constant in the offspring. After that I plan to breed this color pattern with an almost patternless female and try to get an all white coleonyx v.v.

Thx for the interest.
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Thank you for the update! Do you have any pictures?
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Default Amel banded project

Here are some recent photos of the offspring of the Amel. One looks like the male, the other like the female. The lighter one is getting lighter as its getting older, just like the adult did. Both offspring are females, which is great.




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I didn't realize that was so unusual. I had kept some like that as a kid.
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Here is an up to date picture of the original male:


This is a picture of the offspring, which is female:


At this point I would have to say that this is just a color variation and not a mutation. It looked like it was, when the animal was younger, but know since I have produced offspring in one generation with a normal female, it would seem it is just a brightly colored animal. Nice though, none the less, compared to normal borrego stock.

We'll see what happens this breeding season. Still chasing the white gecko : )
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