[Tokaybyt]

Does anyone know how to key out C. elegans and C. mitratus; are there scalation differences, femoral pore counts, etc? I recently picked up 1.3 (2 females are gravid) and would like to be able to tell if these are mitratus or elegans. I'll try to get photos later, but patterns are fairly varied (which is what I've seen on-line image wise anyhow).

[Slice of the Jungle]

Yeah it's simple, look at the price tag, j/k

[Tokaybyt]

Originally Posted by Slice of the Jungle

Yeah it's simple, look at the price tag, j/k

thanks Tim, lol

I'm hoping I lucked out on some elegans, but the more I dig, the more it appears these are rather large (to me) mitratus. One of the females is pretty wicked looking. The store I purchased them at had them labeled as baby banded geckos. I laughed when I saw what they were. The individual who does the ordering will be in on Monday so I'll be able to find out at least what their price list states scientific name wise. Even if they are mitratus, I'm not complaining; I'll just have to save up for some elegans if it's the case. For laying females they appear to be in great shape and WC juvies (mitratus) I saw at the Arlington NARBC expo back in Feb were going for $45/ea.

[Mickej]

Can you post some pics? Then im sure that people could help easily.

[perenquen]

Tokaybyt:

here are my photos of mitratus and elegans

mitratus


elegans


for me, the most apparent difference is position of the light "neck" band:

mitratus: its position on the neck is lower, starts below the eye. the band is usually continual from one eye to the other. the band runs through the ear hole

elegans: its position on the neck is higher, starts at the upper level of the eye. the band is sometimes interrupted, or does not reach the eyes. the band does not run through the ear hole

[GeckoFiend]

I think the "stripe" on the nose is actually one of the keys. Mitratus have it, elegans don't. Pics will say for sure, but I'm betting on mitratus. Are they babies?

[perenquen]

Originally Posted by GeckoFiend

I think the "stripe" on the nose is actually one of the keys. Mitratus have it, elegans don't.

some of my elegans had also stripe on the nose

[Tokaybyt]

Thanks all for the replies, work's been a drain lately and thus my lack of replying. Based upon the photos here I feel comfortable with my new Coleonyx being mitratus.

That's said, here are some photos from today.

Male


Female #3


Female #2



Female #2 - dorsal


And lastly, my favorite...Ana.









All 3 females were showing signs of ovulation, with Ana very gravid where she laid eggs on April 25th. Ana gets her name from her dorsal pattern. You might ask, "How's that?" Well, I'm a nerd (BS in Biology). I was staring at her pattern after taking these photos wondering a name for her. Now normally I don't name my geckos, but my fiancée is changing that, plus it makes creating pedigrees/lineage charts easier. So back to I'm a nerd...Ana is short for anaphase, the 5th step in mitosis, 4th step in meiosis I, and 3rd step in meiosis II, where the chromosomes separate and each chromatid moves to opposite poles of the cell.

Female #2 appeared to have reabsorbed her ova, but is now starting to bloat up with eggies. Female #3 did similar, but is not as far along as #2.

Lastly, perenquen those elegans are gorgeous. I'm a fan of the normally patterned Yucatans, but I absolutely love the patterning and coloration seen in the striped/partial striped animals. I'll have to keep a look out for any US breeders selling some. With luck, that'll put me at 3 species of Coleonyx (I keep a pair of WC brevis I personally collected myself). Hopefully if I can get away from the central portion of my state this year for some herping, I'll try to add bogerti back to my gecko collection.

[Coleonyx]

You have C. mitratus, 100%. Nice looking ones.

Cheers