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05-15-2006, 11:21 AM
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Difference between Cyrtodactylus intermedius and C. pulchell
Hello,
can anybody tell me the difference between Cyrtodactylus intermedius and C. pulchellus?
Perhaps number of bents?
Good bye
Rob
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06-15-2006, 08:29 PM
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only thing that I know is more brilliant colors on the intermedius..?
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06-15-2006, 08:52 PM
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I just got through looking at 40 different ones and am only more confused.The ones sold as Puchellus that I used to see in the late 80s early 90s were always black and grey,with thin yellow lines.When I see what is called Intermedius,they are more yellow and tan.Thats all I can see,and I do reemeber something said about labrial scales counts,but am not 100% sure.
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06-16-2006, 12:44 PM
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I spoke with Leland last night regarding this subject and he mentioned that Puchellus do not have a fold or flap of skin that separates the dorsal and ventral surface along the ribcage.I do see that particular key as I have geckos that have it,and others dont.Adult animals are more easy to differentiate.
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06-20-2006, 12:06 PM
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The interesting thing, is that adults with a raised "intermedial line" have offspring without this trait, that I assume is acquired at maturity. Also, the two very distinct forms that I have seen both have an intermedial line, albeit one is very pronounced, and the other more of a decorative raised color change. The latter is what we are seeing on the market right now, 5 very large body bands, purple/grey/tan with yellow or white stripes inbetween bands and around the heads.
I dont believe there is any way these are the same species...
http://www.gekkota.com/html/c__intermedius.html
Notice the line in both - but vastly different coloring. The lines also differ in that one seems to "roll down" while the other is merely "raised."
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06-20-2006, 12:26 PM
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Leah,honestly after talking with Leland,I was just as confused when I went back and started looking at geckos again.Is there a reliable source of keys that we have for reference?
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06-20-2006, 01:14 PM
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Wow, long time no post for me on here, but I feel it in neccessary to do so in this instent. I understand where you are coming from Leah, and i've also had animals of both color you provided above and I believe they are in fact, different species. However, here is a link (may be unreliable) that shows intermedius as well as pulchellus.
http://www.tc.umn.edu/~gambl007/geckopics.htm
*I am unsure how accurate this actually is, but it's another "guide" for us. Leland
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06-20-2006, 01:39 PM
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06-20-2006, 01:41 PM
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Leland,on the basis of this discussion,I hope you dont hold me to be definately accurate in what I am sending you today.
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06-20-2006, 02:12 PM
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I have no key of any kind on these two. Of course, all I really care about is that all of them that I have are the same (and they are) - calling it the right name is really just a technicality - but it does certainly bear some confusion. Like louisiadensis/irianjayaensis, quadrivirgatus/pubisulcus, elok/brevipalmatus, I guess when it all boils down to it, we have some Asian geckos  |
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