Anbody working with C. peguensis?

Dactylusfan · #1 12-09-2006, 11:03 AM

I had a 2.6 group a few years ago, and I sold them for another project.
I've been regretting it ever since. I really miss hearing them chirp at night. It was a nice sound to go to sleep to. I think I'm going to have to invest in another group someday.
-Phil

Bowfinger · #2 12-12-2006, 03:18 PM

Have not found many people working with them lately. Just like most cyrtodactylus, they dissapear once fresh imports stop filling the market...this is sad when you think about what might be happening to them as they are really not that hard to care for if you understand the care of tropical species.

Dactylusfan · #3 12-12-2006, 04:43 PM

Yeah it is sad. My group bred well too. My problem at the time was finding people that were interested in them. I had a hard time selling the newborns. I got my original group from Pet'acular Exotics in Antioch, Ca.
They were all C.B. too. I've recently e-mailed them to see if they have anymore available and have not received a response. They are definitely underrated. I'm still kicking myself for getting rid of them.
-Phil

Bowfinger · #4 12-12-2006, 05:45 PM

There are many understandable reasons they are not in demand right now(i.e dificult care to some, fluctuating prices, lack of information etc). I plan to show the ease in care when my studies of the genus has grown large enough to share information. I am working on obtaining peguensis and will contact you if there are any others available. I was offered a lone male, but I only buy in groups from one local at a time to insure they are the same species.

Not to mention a lot of these look like crap til they get established, few have an opurtunity to see this transformation before going onto another genus.

Dactylusfan · #5 12-12-2006, 07:57 PM

I really excited to see that you are working with C. elok too. Years ago Wai Lui was working with them, but other than his animals, I didn't see anyone else working with them at the time. This was in '98. In '01 I paid for a group of four from Mark M. Lucas, but they all died before he could ship them

. I'm glad that they are being established in captivity. I can't wait to get some for myself, along with a million other things

.
-Phil Patton

Dactylusfan · #6 12-12-2006, 07:59 PM

Actually I made a mistake. The group I was going to get from Mark Lucas was C. brevipalmatus.
-Phil Patton

Bowfinger · #7 12-13-2006, 10:06 PM

I made one or two buys from Mark with no problems, but I tend to stick with one importer(Marcus) out of him being consistent in what he promises me. Have tried to deal with others and never recieved the entegrity, price or quality I expect. I was into Uroplatus at one point and after the importers stoped giving me strait forward entegrity and very little local information I gave up completely on the genus. So basically I am taking advantage of this opurtunity while its here.

I have a handful of Eloks incubating right now, keep in touch and maybe we can do some trading down the road. I will also let you know when new imports come in as I love to share experience with these underated geckos.

ICU844 · #8 02-10-2007, 07:44 PM

Unless you are willing to make an investment in time with very little return financially, then Pegus as well as other Cyrto's are an option. But not for the pet market where people are looking for eggs on a 30 day basis with a gestation period of no more than 60 days.

Beyond that time period, unless you have a system worked out with babies being born monthly, this group is not worth pursuing. Secondly, the quality and dullness of imports reak with a sense of death when trying to work with these geckos. They look bad! The only exception are the cat geckos which have a better chance not only of survival, but interest.

This is the position that existed when I was importing from Malaysia many many years ago. Its all about dollars and cents and moving merchandize.

In todays market where we have increased our husbandry techniques 100 fold, and applied pressure to insure the safe survival of these geckos, have provided a new found appreciation based on dedicated people such as Marcus..........who cares more about the animal then the quick turnover.

the basic mindset still needs to be brought into forsight. A perfect example would be the Knobtails. That business has turned into a factory almost as extensive as Leopard geckos. Thats unfortunate because the knowledge of husbandry has taken 2nd place and will continue to do so until not only has the animal lost its value, but becomes unsalable because of the original motive..profit with a quick return.

Bowfinger · #9 02-11-2007, 12:39 AM

Very good points Jerry. I plan to get more involved and will always consider the "History" i.e. Knob tails, leopards etc as to not fall into the same trap. The difficulty in volume breeding of this genus makes me feel comfortable in not having to ever see the greedy people enter into this group. I will not lie, I know how to make money and push for profit. I also am working on a few businesses right now for profit, but this does not include my bowfingers. I think once I try to make a profit off of these guys, it becomes bad for me and the gecko, taking away from the fun. If I make a dollar here and there to put back into the hobby, then I am happy.