[Robin/ger]

Hello,


In summer 06 i've bought a female Cyrtodactylus brevipalmatus(pic three)- now i thought i got a male(pic 2)- but it is looking different for me.




Can someone help me with this geckos? Are there such differences between colouration? Perhaps dif. local forms?

Best regards

Robin

[Bowfinger]

Those both actually look very different than C. elok I keep and both different from each other. I wish we had better information to go by on that.

[slygecko]

Have you guys hit the literature for descriptions, keys, etc? If you don't have easy access, I can try to find some good stuff for you. Those are great looking geckos

Cheers,
Nick

[Bowfinger]

Originally Posted by slygecko

Have you guys hit the literature for descriptions, keys, etc? If you don't have easy access, I can try to find some good stuff for you. Those are great looking geckos

Cheers,
Nick

I would love to see that information when you have the time.

[slygecko]

Originally Posted by Bowfinger

I would love to see that information when you have the time.

Sure. So, brevipalmatus and elok for starters. Any other species? Gimme a week or so and I'll see what I can turn up.

Cheers,
Nick

[Bowfinger]

If you don't mind, C. pulchellus and C. intermedius as well. Those are the less understood cyrtodactylus look alikes so far.

[slygecko]

Originally Posted by Bowfinger

If you don't mind, C. pulchellus and C. intermedius as well. Those are the less understood cyrtodactylus look alikes so far.

Okay, I'm on it.

~ Nick

[Robin/ger]

I hope it will help...

Anyone ideas what i got there? I'm a bit confused now...

[slygecko]

Well, heres the first little tidbit of useful info I have dug up. In

A New Species of Cyrtodactylus from the Nicobar Islands, India. I. Das. 1997. Journal of Herpetology. 31(3).

There is a table listing a differences in a couple traits between a range of species. It lists pulchellus as having a max SVL of 165 mm while intermedius only has 80.7 mm. Pulchellus also has only 35 mid-ventrals while intermedius has 40-50.
The differences between elok and brevipalmatus are slight. 67.5 svl in elok and 72 in brev. Both have 40-44 mid-ventrals.

I will keep digging for useful stuff. You can PM me for a copy of this paper.

Another note, the species described in this paper is named after my herp club advisor at Cornell, Kraig Adler. That is very awesome

Cheers,
Nick

[slygecko]

I found two papers with large tables of characters of many Cyrtodactylus species from the Sunda Shelf region. Bust out your magnifying lens, it's scale countin' time. PM me with your email for the papers.



Source: L. Lee Grismer. 2005. New Species of Bent-Toed Gecko (Cyrtodactylus Gray 1827) from Pulau Aur, Johor, West Malaysia. Journal of Herpetology, Vol. 39, No. 3, pp. 424–432.

Cheers,
Nick