[Steven Busch]

Cyrtodactylus intermedius wild caughts just in today. Quick shots while unpacking and panacuring them.

[toma03]

hi steven,

i think you have some C.pulchellus

in the pic's 4 and 5 you have C.intermedius

but other pic's look like C.pulchellus

[Steven Busch]

i think you have some C.pulchellus

in the pic's 4 and 5 you have C.intermedius

but other pic's look like C.pulchellus [/quote]

You may be correct. These are new species for us. We have been wondering about the different looks and had not researched them yet. We were going by labels.

[Bowfinger]

Yes, picture 4) is intermedius and picture 5) is both species.

[Steven Busch]

I am confused. The C.intermedius have smooth skin and the C.pulchellus have a bumpier skin?

[Bowfinger]

A typical C. intermedius from your exporter/importer has smoother skin, an extra band, the banding edges are not as pronounces in tubercles or color, the eyes are different in color and the general body color is a different tone (they both change colors considerably though).
The intermedius have a much more limited range at mid-altitude while pulchellus overlaps from lowlands to highlands. I believe the confusion lies in pulchellus being so variable and having the ability to cross with intermedius producing babies unlikely to survive, but the ones that do have partial traits. Intermedius is very consistent in its traits, that is typical of most specialists.

[BeccaB]

Does anyone have a care sheet for C. intermedius, or know where I can get one? been really struggling to find much information about them.

[Bowfinger]

I am working on the subject myself and find very little to go by. Much information is overlapped with C. Pulchellus and there are many distinct populations with different needs. I have even contacted a few scientists with published information on cyrtodactylus and the region with little new information. I have even had people (i.e.Lee Grizmer) question the existence of intermedius in Malaysia. I do have reasonable proof they do come from a limited range there.

I am working with a dozen C.intermedius(Malaysian) right now to try and establish a care sheet. I am also working with a dozen or so C.pulchellus as well. Hopefully will have a care sheet for the two very soon. But, I would much rather see studies of the group in its natural habitat including population distinctions...only dreaming.

[Steven Busch]

Shane,

I am glad you are working on a care sheet for these species. They seem like really nice geckos.

Here is an unusually banded one that came with the group.

[BeccaB]

thanks. i'm due to be getting one soon, although having looked again, and at your descriptions above, i think it may be a C. Pulchellus, not an intermedius. I am however not particulary experienced with geckos and am starting to wonder whether its a good idea as so little seems to be known about them. what do you think?