[Bowfinger]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2740/...c7334ef4_o.jpg

[DDReptiles]

Makes me wonder if the whole intermedius/pulchellus is more of a locality issue. That one seems to have a little of both in it.

[Bowfinger]

That's what I was thinking as well. It's so hard to relate this to another better studied group as there are no other forests as old and extensive in habitats. I hope "knotsnake" eventually gets his head out of the knot and realize geckos are way better study than snakes
Funny how Thai species look so cool now that they have closed their doors.

[Michael C]

Since it has come to my attention that one of my pictures was posted here, I thought I would comment. Although Cyrtodactylus intermedius and C. pulchellus resemble each other in pattern and colouration, it is not a simple geographic issue. There is such a difference between the two in close examination, that I would doubt it is a case of allotropic speciation, but this will become more clear with a molecular phylogeny to see exactly how close they are related. It is easiest to distinguish Cyrtodactylus intermedius and C. pulchellus by examining the males. In male C. intermedius, males have 8-10 preanal pores at a wide angle and a group of 6-10 englarged preanal scales. In male C. pulchellus, there are two series of four preanal pores forming a right angle and 15-20 femoral pores along a longitudinal groove. The traits that separate all C. intermedius from all C. pulchellus is that all C. intermedius have a ventrolateral fold. There are many other differences between the species which take closer examination, such as: lamellae counts, supralabial counts and other measures of squamation.

As for Knot (Montri), I think you will see he has been very busy with geckos.

[Bowfinger]

Thanks for the information Michael. I found your picture online and it was very similar to a type we had in our hands at the time that was being called C. intermedius by importers. Since this post in 2009, I have talked with Montri Sumontha on the topic and have witnessed him putting in much work to the subject...a very good guy.