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    TNWJackson is offline Newbie
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    Default Cyrtodactylus "louisiadensis"/"tuberculatus/"abrae"......?


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    There is significant conjecture over the taxonomy of Cyrtodactylus sp. in Australia and I must admit to not having read the paper(s) reinstating tuberculatus and describing abrae. It seems that C. tuberculatus is the most widely accepted name for most Australian specimens anyway....although there are numerous "forms".

    I seem to have two different forms which, although they can't be satisfactorily seperate by counting body and tail bands, grow to substantially different adult sizes. I have three adults (2m, 1f ) of one form and two juveniles of the other. My adult female is a good 30cm (I haven't measured her accurately, she detests being handled and I see no reason to stress her), but the adults that produced my juveniles apparently max out at about 20cm and are quite different in appearance. Anyway, all that aside, here are a couple of pics!

    Adult male (Form "A"):



    Juvenile (Form "B" - unfortunately I have no adult shots on hand of this form and this is an old shot of a juvenile which has grown considerably since. If anyone is interested, I can post more comparison photos when the juvies are bigger):

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    I've been pondering this question myself lately. I also appear to have two seperate forms. I have an adult breeding trio (1 m, 2 f) and a sub adult pair (1 m, 1 f). Both were sold to me as "Cooktown locale", however the adult trio are much larger (the subadults are 18 months old and I presume approaching full size) have darker colouration and more distinct bands. The subadults have a lighter colouration, with the bands becoming indistinct ventrally. The number of bands doesn't seem to vary between the two "forms". Based on the publication you mention it seems that the trio most closely fits the description of C. tuberculatus and the subadult pair C. abrae.

    I have attached pictures of an adult female and a subadult male representing the two forms. Unfortunately the flash has made the female look lighter than she is. It would be fantastic if anyone could enlighten us on the current thinking regarding the taxonomy of this genus in Australia.

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