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Old 04-13-2011, 04:04 PM
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Question Identification and sexing help?

I bought a pair of WC Cyrtodactylus brevipalmatus from Hamm. I knew this species was similar to Elok but I wasn't sure of the differences. I had a look through the box at them and the seller (zoohaus W&S) assured me they were a pair, they looked very similar and I took their word on it.
When I got them home I released them into two vivs as I wanted to monitor them before introducing them. Last night I decided to get them out, check them over and introduce them.
I louped them as I had read on here that the main difference between brevipalmatus and elok was the presence of femoral pores in brevipalmatus. I discovered one of mine has pre-anal pores but no femoral pores and the other does not have any sign of pores. Both have 3-4 large scales visable pre-anally. Also my 'male' does not have a bluge so I have a suspicion I have two females, one elok and one brevipalmatus. Also the one without pores is much heavier looking than the one with pores. Both are visablly similar in colouration and markings and eye colours and tail colours are the same.
Does anyone have any idea whether they could be one of each species or whether they are a pair of one species?
They are both around 5 -6 inches long in total

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Second one male? - (this one has pores)




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Old 04-13-2011, 10:34 PM
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Julie,

I keep Eloks too. I have 1.4 adults. Males are very noticable even as juvies. You guessed right, the two you have are not a pair. The female without pores is a elok, the one with pores is brevipalmatus. Good luck finding mates for them both.
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Old 04-14-2011, 03:21 PM
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Julie,

I keep Eloks too. I have 1.4 adults. Males are very noticable even as juvies. You guessed right, the two you have are not a pair. The female without pores is a elok, the one with pores is brevipalmatus. Good luck finding mates for them both.
Thanks for the reply Jimmy. Just have to hope we can locate 2 males now
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I agree with Jimmy. I have a pair of eloks breeding for me and males are VERY obvious. They have clear bulges and are much smaller than females. I think there's a decent pic up in one of my previous posts of the two together probably breeding to see a size difference. I'd say my male is almost 1/2 the size of my female.
Also, this link is a great way to learn the differences between the two species. It notes several differences to help you identify them accurately for the future and tells you about their habitat, etc.
http://rmbr.nus.edu.sg/rbz/biblio/56/56rbz177-179.pdf
Good luck finding mates for them males can be hard to come by wc.
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:49 PM
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I agree with Jimmy. I have a pair of eloks breeding for me and males are VERY obvious. They have clear bulges and are much smaller than females. I think there's a decent pic up in one of my previous posts of the two together probably breeding to see a size difference. I'd say my male is almost 1/2 the size of my female.
Also, this link is a great way to learn the differences between the two species. It notes several differences to help you identify them accurately for the future and tells you about their habitat, etc.
http://rmbr.nus.edu.sg/rbz/biblio/56/56rbz177-179.pdf
Good luck finding mates for them males can be hard to come by wc.
Thanks for the link, I know we might have a hard job locating 2 different males, but fingers crossed
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