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Am I feeding my six week old leopard gecko the right way

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HI I have haf my six week old leopard gecko for a week, first of all I fed him 4-6 small hoppers avday by just placing 2 at a time in his vivarium. As he spends all day andvevening hiding in his cave, for the last two days I have dipped size 3 crickets in water then calcium and places then at the opening of his cave. They walk around for a few seconds before he eagerly eats them.

I give him around 5-7 crickets and within 5 minutes theyvwre all gone. I use calcium around 4 days a week. I gut feed the crickets on bug grub, crushed cornflakes, dog biscuits, potato, carrots as well as bug gel.

I alternate weekly between crickets, locusts and hoppers. I wascadvised by a breeder of twentybyears not to feed him mealworms as he may find them hard to digest and if he swallowed them wholevthey may bit him as he swallows.

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  1. mrhellboy218's Avatar
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    do you use any vitamin supplements?
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    Not at the moment, I was advised the gecko didn't require any. I am thinking of using a supplement with d3 now and again though. Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevepb
    Not at the moment, I was advised the gecko didn't require any. I am thinking of using a supplement with d3 now and again though. Thanks
    I would suggest using a vitamin supplement (with vitamins A,B,C...etc).
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    What would be the best product to use and how often should i use it. Thanks
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    I use Nutrobal, and as a juvenile, I dusted my leo's food 4 days multivitamins and 3 days calcium.
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    Thank you, I will get some. Toby has started coming out of his hide in the evening and I placed the cricket pen in his vivarium last night to take some out for him, I accidentally knocked it on its side and around a dozen jumped out. Within 5 mins he had chased and eaten all but one. I think il leave it a day before I feed him next lol. He has a nice fat tail and is very healthy. Thanks again for your help.
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    Hi Steve ~

    A warm welcome to Geckos Unlimited! Looks as if mrhellboy218 has got you covered re Nutrobal.

    Excellent feeding Toby a varied diet. Sounds as if he has a great appetite!

    I have not used Nutrobal, but do know that too frequent multivitamin and/or calcium dusting could be a bad thing. It's quite important for our geckos, including leos, to get most of their nutrients from their diets. Consider very light dusting of the insects as just icing on the cake.

    Quote Originally Posted by stevepb
    I gut feed the crickets on bug grub, crushed cornflakes, dog biscuits, potato, carrots as well as bug gel.
    Dog biscuits, carrots, and potatoes are not very good insect foods.

    Within this link you will find a USDept Agri link which allows you to check out just about any food: http://www.geckosunlimited.com/commu...uidelines.html

    What type substrate are you using in Toby's enclosure?
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    Updated 05-24-2014 at 12:46 AM by Elizabeth Freer
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    Thanks for your comments, I also feed the insects bug grub and apples and pears. He is doing really well eating around a dozen locusts or crickets a night. I use reptile artificial moss carpet a large rock cave on the hot side. A moist hide and a large piece of bark which gives him plenty of hiding places on the mid to cool side.

    I dust the insects every third day with calci-dust and change his water every day. Temp 90 on warm side, 78 on cool side. I have had Toby a almost two weeks. I show him my hand and place it in front of him. He stays and licks my finger and very occasionally will walk onto my hand. I am reluctant to pick him up at the moment as I want him to get settled and used to me. I am new to geckos and appreciate everybodys help.
    Thanks
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    As you can see from my original post, my feeding system has changed slightly. Should I also feed meal worms, I am concerned it would harm him.
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    Sorry to keep asking so many questions, should I change the carpet to tile as he keeps digging the carpet and getting bits in his mouth at times while catching the insects.
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    Nice to see he's doing well. For mealworms they should be no problem for him just make sure their the right size for him. And I'd think switching to tiles would be a good idea but you could also just use plain paper towels.
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    Thanks, good advice, I will try some mini meal worms I already have a worm dish. I was just worried about all the scaremongering regarding them eating they're way out of the geckos stomach. I will change to paper towel. One layer or two lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevepb
    Thanks, good advice, I will try some mini meal worms I already have a worm dish. I was just worried about all the scaremongering regarding them eating they're way out of the geckos stomach. I will change to paper towel. One layer or two lol
    One layer of paper towel/kitchen roll will work, with several additional layers in Toby's poop spot.

    Textured ceramic, porcelain, or slate tiles (about 6-10 mm thick) are permanent, attractive, conduct heat well, and are easily cleaned.

    As long as mealworms are only part of a varied diet and there is adequate heating, mealworms on and off will work. Might wish to concentrate on the freshly shed mealies and mealworm pupae...less of a chitinous exoskeleton.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevepb
    Thanks for your comments, I also feed the insects bug grub and apples and pears. He is doing really well eating around a dozen locusts or crickets a night. I use reptile artificial moss carpet a large rock cave on the hot side. A moist hide and a large piece of bark which gives him plenty of hiding places on the mid to cool side.

    I dust the insects every third day with calci-dust and change his water every day. Temp 90 on warm side, 78 on cool side. I have had Toby a almost two weeks. I show him my hand and place it in front of him. He stays and licks my finger and very occasionally will walk onto my hand. I am reluctant to pick him up at the moment as I want him to get settled and used to me. I am new to geckos and appreciate everybodys help.
    Thanks
    You are very welcome. Toby is lucky to have you for his keeper!

    Please link your Bug Grub for us. I'd like to check on certain nutrient levels. One thing: does it contain vitamin D3? Some vitamin D3 is necessary in order to metabolize calcium.

    I recommend 3 secure hides: warm DRY and warm MOIST both on the warm end and a cool DRY hide. Keeping the warm MOIST hide on the warm end will help generate the necessary humidity to help Toby shed and stay hydrated.

    Aim for a 1.5 to 2.0 ratio of calcium to 1.0 phosphorus since insects are deficient in calcium. By feeding the insects some foods high in calcium like collard greens and pesticide-free dandelion flowers and greens we "rebalance" the content of the crickets. Mustard greens, leeks, watercress are excellent too.

    Click on this link enter foods like apples and pears to check for calcium and phosphorus: Foods List

    One way to lightly dust insects:
    Take a tall plastic container
    Place a small amount of supplement powder in the bottom
    Add some insects
    Gently swirl

    One way to supply vitamins and calcium is only to dust a few of them per feeding rather than all of them a couple times per week.
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    Updated 05-24-2014 at 06:34 AM by Elizabeth Freer
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    Thank you Elizabeth,
    Its prorep bug grub.
    Protein 16% oil b 4.5% fibre 17.2% ash 11%
    Moisture 13.8% magnesium 0.3% vitamin a 5000iu/kg
    Vitamin d3 500iu/kg vitamin e 20iu/kg selenium 0.05mg/kg
    Copper 30mg/kg
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    Updated 05-24-2014 at 06:38 AM by stevepb
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevepb
    Thank you Elizabeth,
    Its prorep bug grub.
    Protein 16% oil b 4.5% fibre 17.2% ash 11%
    Moisture 13.8% magnesium 0.3% vitamin a 5000iu/kg
    Vitamin d3 500iu/kg vitamin e 20iu/kg selenium 0.05mg/kg
    Copper 30mg/kg
    You are welcome!

    By some chance does the Bug Grub list the type of vitamin A? Nice to see D3 is covered as well.

    Just curious about this: One person I know on GU might say that 17.2% fibre is too much. Wondering how Toby's feces look? Dark brown and nicely formed like a large tic tac breath mint or otherwise?
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    Vitamin A 5000 iu/kg
    His pop is dark brown with a white bit just like a tick tack but sometimes lighter brown.
    Also how many sheets of paper towel should I place over the heat mat. Thanks
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    Just changed the substrate. Toby walked into the plastic box when I placed it on its side in his vivarium. When I lifted the artificial moss carpet I found a cricket. I popped it in with Toby and seconds later the cricket was history.
    after a quick wipe around I laid a few sheets of newspaper over the hot spot then laid kitchen roll over the whole floor. Soon Toby was back in his home walking around as if he had landed on a different planet lol. However, he was soon back in his warm hide.
    I also cleaned out the crickets. I have had them for 10 days with only around 10% death rate. They seem a lot bigger than when I bought them (size 3) but Toby has no problem eating them.
    Should I be feeding him every day???
    I appreciate the help from people that have kept leopard geckos =)
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    well any leo under a year old is to be fed daily but once they're a year old they don't have to be feed every single day. Good to see Toby is adjusted to the new substrate !!!
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    I am lucky, he just seems to take everything in his stride. I had him from a local family that have two pairs in different vivariums. Toby is one of 4 and he had been handled daily before I collected him. He was free as the breeder just wanted good homes for them and they kept him for me until I had his new home set up properly with all temps stable.
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