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    Default Rescued two Leo's one male, one female. Questions on eggs?


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    Hi guys. New here. Needed some help with two Leo's we rescued. We had a 14 year old female, she had a cage mate that passed away after we moved out of state. Both were female. They had never laid before. They were our first set of geckos and we got them when I was very young and I didn't know much about them at the time. Now that I'm almost 21, I know a lot more. My girl passed away and my little brother saw a post online about two geckos needing a home so we went and picked them up. After bringing them home I got their cage all squared away and realized we had a male and a female. My mom gave them to me today because my brother isn't really paying attention to them and that's when I realized she had laid an egg in their tank, I don't know how long it's been there but it was kinda dried up and it wasn't there a couple of days ago when I was visiting my parents. It was only one, so my question is, will she be laying more? Is it going to be a regular thing for her to be laying infertile eggs? Do I need to set up a lay box for her? Also is it possible that that egg was fertile and maybe just didn't make it? How often do they ovulate? Will she become fertile if we keep the male in the tank? I recently got screwed on money and don't have the money for a tank to separate them so I just want to make sure it's all taken care of. Sorry for such the long post... I'm just worried about her. They're also very very skiddish so holding her isn't easy. TIA! IMG_1248.JPG IMG_1251.JPG
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    Welcome to GU! The egg in the picture is definitely at least a few days old and totally dried up. If you keep a male and female together, you will most likely get more eggs and for them to hatch they have to be in a humid environment at a steady temperature between 80-88. If you don't have enough money for another cage (there are often cheap cages on craigslist) I imagine you don't have enough money for an incubator and for feeding and housing babies. Most people would say to separate the geckos immediately. I'd say the "damage" is done. As long as the male isn't constantly bothering the female and/or biting her (and creating wounds) when he tries to mate, if you can't afford another cage I don't think it will make a difference. It's kind of a shame that this gecko may lay more eggs that are fertile and use her physical resources but not have anything hatch. You may want to advertise to see if you can find someone local to you or a herp society that could take your eggs and incubate them. Good luck with everything.

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    i get paid tonorrow so I'm going into town to get them what they need because I honestly feel bad for them, they came from a home that had no idea whatsoever what they were doing, they were healthy but the tank was in bad condition. I have another tank but it currently has a snake in it that got dumped on me and left behind by a roommate that never paid rent which is why I don't have the money lol. He doesn't bite her or anything, he actually is super attached to her and when I take her out seems upset. They just kinda lay in the hide all day together. We have a game and fish department and they take in a lot of things like that do you think they might take eggs in? Thank you. I'm never thought of checking Craigslist. I'll go check it out right now

    EDIT: Also if I did come up with the money for an incubator and such, what's a good one and how much do they go for? I've seen a lot of people make their own but no way I could do that lol. I just want them to be happy especially since they're young and I took them in to give them a better life and I feel so bad that this is the situation we're in now. What should I provide for her to make this easier on her? Besides an incubator and housing for the babies and food, what else should I look into getting? I work two jobs, my second jobs checks go into paying off my car once that is paid off I'll have 300-500 coming in a month that doesn't need to be spent on anything specific. So the money's there it's just there's other things it's being spent on right now. Thank you so much in advance
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    Some people make their own incubators and if you google "home made incubator" you'll undoubtedly find some. The most important thing about an incubator is the thermostat so you'll need a good one. The most common basic reptile egg incubator (if you don't make one yourself) is the "hobovator". It runs about $50 but the thermostat isn't so good, so many people spend an additional $100 or so to get a proportional thermostat. Another option is the zoo-med incubator which is like the hobovator except it has a decent thermostat and, of course, it costs about as much as a hobovator + decent thermostat.
    If there's any place in your house where you can guarantee the temperatures will be steady in the 80-88 range (i.e. with less than 2 degrees fluctuation) then you don't need an incubator at all. It's worth a call to the fish and game dept as well.

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    Oh my goodness that's it? I was DEFINITELY expecting a lot more than maybe $150!!! That's a lot more affordable than I expected t to be �� I have plenty of tanks as well, I just don't have stands for them at the moment, I have two 10 gallons, 1 20, and a 40 gallon. The snake my ex roommate dumped on me is in one of the tens but he was a wild caught snake that had a very serious injury, they nursed him back to health about 6-8 months ago and we've been talking about letting him back go so that tank and my light will be freed up again. How much do babies eat typically and is there anything to feed them that's better than the other? Do I need to provide lots of calcium? Do I need to provide a light and a pad or just a pad? I know nothing about little ones sorry! Again thank you so much

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    Oh my goodness that's it? I was DEFINITELY expecting a lot more than maybe $150!!! That's a lot more affordable than I expected t to be 😂 I have plenty of tanks as well, I just don't have stands for them at the moment, I have two 10 gallons, 1 20, and a 40 gallon. The snake my ex roommate dumped on me is in one of the tens but he was a wild caught snake that had a very serious injury, they nursed him back to health about 6-8 months ago and we've been talking about letting him back go so that tank and my light will be freed up again. How much do babies eat typically and is there anything to feed them that's better than the other? Do I need to provide lots of calcium? Do I need to provide a light and a pad or just a pad? I know nothing about little ones sorry! Again thank you so much

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    Hatchlings eat more often and need somewhat smaller prey, but I usually have them on full-sized mealworms within the first 3 weeks and by 2-3 months on full sized crickets if I'm going that route. They can start on 1/4"-1/2" crickets. I provide a small lid of plain calcium to my hatchlings since I noticed a few of them seemed to be getting MBD without it. The rest of the husbandry is the same as for adults for the most part.

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    Honestly seems easier to take care of than my tarantulas seeing as they grow faster. All of my T's I've raised from the size of my pinky fingernail....when should I separate the babies? When they're freshly hatched what should I keep the tank at? Do I remove them from the incubator immediately? I just want to make sure I have all of my ducks in a row first..

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    when should I separate the babies? When they're freshly hatched what should I keep the tank at? Do I remove them from the incubator immediately? I just want to make sure I have all of my ducks in a row first..

    Here's how I do it (which is not necessarily how other people do it): I remove the hatchlings from the incubator as soon as I see that they've hatched. I put them in a small space with temperature and other conditions the same as for the adults, except that for the babies I mist them several times a day to keep them hydrated. I keep my clutch mates together, but other people keep each hatchling separately. I "mix and match" as they grow to avoid having hatchlings of very different sizes together. Especially if I have one that's starting to eat much slower,and, needless to say, if I have a hatchling with a deformity, that one is kept alone.
    Here are some Gecko Time article that's about all geckos, but it's a good guideline:
    Care and Feeding of Gecko Hatchlings - Gecko Time - Gecko Time
    Housing Your Hatchlings - Gecko Time - Gecko Time

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