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    Question Possible Breeding/FTS/BAD HIPS?? HELP!!


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    Hey everyone! I was looking to breed my gecko butters. However im unsure if i should do so. I bought her 2 weeks ago and as soon as i brought her home, I realized she had FTS. I had no choice but to get her to drop her tail that very hour. Not sure if that was a bad or good idea. Im not sure how bad it was. I just knew it had to go! It was a bit difficult. She was so mellow and relaxed. Anyhow, Im trying to figure out if her hips are bad. Ive searched and searched for picture or info but have had no luck. No one gets deeper into the issue. I dont want to breed her if she can get egg bound. Shes super healthy. Shes very active, jumps,climbs,poops,eats (repashy only), with a occassional dusted cricket. I never weighed her with her tail, but without her tail she is 41Grams. Shes a big mama! Doesnt appear to be over weight. Just large. Also im trying to figure out what morph she is. I can figure out the morphs, but i cant with her.... Any suggestions,advice, input will help! Thanks!!!
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    I think she's a yellow brindle.

    FTS can be caused by geckos who simply prefer to sleep upside down on the glass and is not necessarily an indicator of MBD. however, the one picture you post where some of the tail is still visible looks more like mild MBD than FTS. do you have any other pictures of her tail before it dropped?

    also, the tissue looks a little necrotic where it's healing. are you using any antibiotic to make certain it heals well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    I think she's a yellow brindle.

    FTS can be caused by geckos who simply prefer to sleep upside down on the glass and is not necessarily an indicator of MBD. however, the one picture you post where some of the tail is still visible looks more like mild MBD than FTS. do you have any other pictures of her tail before it dropped?

    also, the tissue looks a little necrotic where it's healing. are you using any antibiotic to make certain it heals well?

    Answer: Ive just been keeping her tank extremely clean. From what ive read, you dont put anything on it. Do you have other suggestions? I have one other picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrestieMama View Post
    Answer: Ive just been keeping her tank extremely clean. From what ive read, you dont put anything on it. Do you have other suggestions? I have one other picture.
    When I bought her she was upside down.... tail was shlumped over. She still sleeps upside down on the glass....

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    That looks and sounds like FTS to me.

    Generally, with a dropped tail, you don't have to clean it or put any antibiotic on it, just keep the gecko in a sterile environment until it heals. However, if it looks as if it's not healing well, is pussing/oozing, or becoming necrotic, then you will need to assist. I can't really tell from the pics what's going on, but I'm inclined to go with Aimless' instinct on this one and would consider helping out the gecko. Maybe try cleaning it with diluted Betadine and applying polysporin/neosporin (pain reliever-free) to the stub. I've had a gecko drop a tail on me, and her stub just had a little scab on the end until it healed and that was it.

    I have no personal experience with this, but from what I've read, there are mixed feelings about whether a gecko with FTS should be bred. Some believe there may be a genetic predisposition to FTS, whereas others believe it's purely nurture. My personal opinion, and what I would/will do, is I won't breed a gecko with suspected FTS. I would rather just be safe and find a different gecko to breed instead. My girl who dropped her tail? I actually consider it a blessing she did it on her own as she appeared to have FTS as well. While she's gorgeous, I don't plan on breeding her simply because I don't want to risk it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cassicat4 View Post
    That looks and sounds like FTS to me.

    Generally, with a dropped tail, you don't have to clean it or put any antibiotic on it, just keep the gecko in a sterile environment until it heals. However, if it looks as if it's not healing well, is pussing/oozing, or becoming necrotic, then you will need to assist. I can't really tell from the pics what's going on, but I'm inclined to go with Aimless' instinct on this one and would consider helping out the gecko. Maybe try cleaning it with diluted Betadine and applying polysporin/neosporin (pain reliever-free) to the stub. I've had a gecko drop a tail on me, and her stub just had a little scab on the end until it healed and that was it.

    I have no personal experience with this, but from what I've read, there are mixed feelings about whether a gecko with FTS should be bred. Some believe there may be a genetic predisposition to FTS, whereas others believe it's purely nurture. My personal opinion, and what I would/will do, is I won't breed a gecko with suspected FTS. I would rather just be safe and find a different gecko to breed instead. My girl who dropped her tail? I actually consider it a blessing she did it on her own as she appeared to have FTS as well. While she's gorgeous, I don't plan on breeding her simply because I don't want to risk it.
    Gotcha! It looks like its scabbed over to me, but i will put something on it. Does she look like she has bad hips to you? Breeding isnt such a huge concern. Her overall health it more important. I just couldnt tell if her hips looked off, or unhealthy?

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    Hip-wise, she doesn't look too bad to me, meaning I don't think they'll cause her any grief or discomfort. I've certainly seen some geckos that looked far worse. The stub definitely appears bent indicating FTS though. I do feel you did the right thing in forcing a tail drop before it could really affect her hips and spine. She's a pretty gecko, and will make a great pet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cassicat4 View Post
    Hip-wise, she doesn't look too bad to me, meaning I don't think they'll cause her any grief or discomfort. I've certainly seen some geckos that looked far worse. The stub definitely appears bent indicating FTS though. I do feel you did the right thing in forcing a tail drop before it could really affect her hips and spine. She's a pretty gecko, and will make a great pet.
    She seems pretty normal. She climbs,jumps, walks all over her branches. So her hips didnt seem like an issue, but that fts kinda scared me. I made her drop it with in 1-2 hours of bringing her home!!! Lol, Im a bit obsessed with my animals. Isnt she pretty?? When shes fired up shes super super yellow!! I love it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrestieMama View Post
    Hey everyone! I was looking to breed my gecko butters. However im unsure if i should do so. I bought her 2 weeks ago and as soon as i brought her home, I realized she had FTS. I had no choice but to get her to drop her tail that very hour. Not sure if that was a bad or good idea. Im not sure how bad it was. I just knew it had to go! It was a bit difficult. She was so mellow and relaxed. Anyhow, Im trying to figure out if her hips are bad. Ive searched and searched for picture or info but have had no luck. No one gets deeper into the issue. I dont want to breed her if she can get egg bound. Shes super healthy. Shes very active, jumps,climbs,poops,eats (repashy only), with a occassional dusted cricket. I never weighed her with her tail, but without her tail she is 41Grams. Shes a big mama! Doesnt appear to be over weight. Just large. Also im trying to figure out what morph she is. I can figure out the morphs, but i cant with her.... Any suggestions,advice, input will help! Thanks!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    I think she's a yellow brindle.

    FTS can be caused by geckos who simply prefer to sleep upside down on the glass and is not necessarily an indicator of MBD. however, the one picture you post where some of the tail is still visible looks more like mild MBD than FTS. do you have any other pictures of her tail before it dropped?

    also, the tissue looks a little necrotic where it's healing. are you using any antibiotic to make certain it heals well?
    Quote Originally Posted by CrestieMama View Post
    Answer: Ive just been keeping her tank extremely clean. From what ive read, you dont put anything on it. Do you have other suggestions? I have one other picture.
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    Gotcha! It looks like its scabbed over to me, but i will put something on it. Does she look like she has bad hips to you? Breeding isnt such a huge concern. Her overall health it more important. I just couldnt tell if her hips looked off, or unhealthy?

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    What substrate has she been on since her tail dropped? Is the tail wound actually looking infected? Concern is that it is looking black. Perhaps a vet should advise?

    When we apply ointment like neosporin, there is always the chance that the gecko will ingest some by licking.

    What are you dusting onto her crickets? Vitamin D3 helps metabolize calcium.

    I feed my mature male crestie more crickets than anything else.

    I have not had very much experience with cresties.
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