[Sommer]

Hey people,

Just looking through all the forum in here again I simply could not find any pictures of "natural felinus caging".

As you have seen mine are growing, and I want to setup a viv for them now so it is grown completely when they are sexed and put together.

My plans are as said a natural vivarium for them. I have seen 80x40x40 is recommended by some, but any other recommendations on the size? I would like it a bit taller, and maybe a bit wider. Actually I was considering 100 wide, 40 deep and 50 high. Would that be fine? Housing hopefully 1.2 johor silvereyes.

Or should I go towards keeping them alone in smaller vivs? Please argue.

For the lightning I will go for LED. I have found different LEDs at a chinese webpage, which will offer me the possibility to make it like the "bottom of a forrest" with some diffues LEDs and a few spots. Furthermore it will get a blue night light two hours after the warm-light LEDs are shut-off (made with pure white and red LEDs - my friend is super good at that suff). The light will be awsome and is already planned. It will at the same time create no heat at all and cost me nearly no money to turn on. Win-win!

For water I have a E.N.T water sprayer, that will spray some seconds everyday. That should be sufficient.

So, let me see some pictures! And I already DID look through the forum, most of the older threads are with no pictures anymore.

Anyway, all in all I would like some decent information, argumentations, etc. about how I should make it, if there should be ALOT of plants, only a few, etc.

Time to show me some photos for inspiration! (I only saw some boxes so far).

Thanks people.

[Riverside Reptiles]

Lars, I don't have any pics of my enclosures handy. But to answer some of your questions...
I would keep them all in individual enclosures. They seem to do much better that way. I think that in nature they live quite solitary lives and thus the need for such long term sperm retention as we've seen. I only put mine together when it's time to breed. They don't need huge enclosures. As you've seen, I keep many of mine in modified rubbermaid tubs. I also use 10 gallon tanks. I use pothos a lot for plants. They're easy to care for, cheap, and the good sized leaves give the felinus lots of nice places to hide. The stems of the pothos are also thick enough that they can hold the weight of a felinus. So, it gives them lots of stuff to climb on. I also have started to just leave the plants right in the pots. The felinus love to crawl into the pots and sleep. And often my females will lay their eggs in the pots. I guess they feel safer because it's up off the ground. It also makes it easy to simply remove the plants when it comes time to clean or if I'm looking for eggs, etc. For substrate, I'm using a peat/sand mix right now that seems to be working out ok. I also make sure to have some pieces of slate,cork bark, etc in each enclosure to give them different stuff to rub on to aid in shedding. This seems especially helpful with hatchlings that can have shedding issues.

Here's some pics of a felinus enclosure that was custom made by Jason (Protean):

[Sommer]

Thank you very much for a nice description.

However I am still considering whether to keep them alone or to keep a small group. I have this terrarium (100 wide, 50 tall and 40 deep), which I think would be just AWSOME for them but at the same time of course I want as healthy animals as possible.

[Riverside Reptiles]

I've always kept mine separate, so I can't speak from personal experience. But Marcus, who had many years of experience working with felinus, said that he had many issues with them dying when housed together. So I've never been willing to take the risk. Also, just in general I prefer to house my geckos individually. It just makes it easier over all to keep track of the specific needs of each animal.