First Borneo eggs in USA

gekkocorner · #1 09-06-2010, 09:59 PM

I came home today to find that one of my Borneo females looked very 'empty'. After removing most of the stuff in the terrarium I found these two perfect eggs burried next to a potted plant.

Now the countdown begins to see some green eyed babies.

rhacoboy · #2 09-06-2010, 10:24 PM

CONGRATS! Can't wait to see baby pictures!
-Armen

Palor · #3 09-06-2010, 11:07 PM

Big gratz!

*ZERO* · #4 09-07-2010, 10:51 AM

Wow congrats Steve i can see u now sitting in front of the incubator twittling your thumbs waiting haha

sikorae · #5 09-07-2010, 04:50 PM

Wow congrats, looking forward to hopefully seeing some hatchlings

gekkocorner · #6 09-07-2010, 05:03 PM

Thanks guys. Actually all of the work was done by mother nature, a few of these gals came gravid from Borneo so all I have to do is to make sure they stay well hydrated and that they have plenty of hiding spots and feel confortable in their terrariums. I have two more females who should be laying soon.

Unfortunally I lost some females from my previous group egg bound. They made several holes to lay their eggs and even during daytime they would wonder around the cage as if something was bothering them. But they seemed too weak to lay their eggs and died a few days later.

I have high hopes for my other two gravid girls. they are doing much better.

seschafer · #7 09-07-2010, 10:47 PM

Hi Steven,

Congratulations! This is one of my favorite species. I love their cryptic nature. What do you mean by the first Borneo eggs in the US? Is this a ver rare occurrence now? Not trying to stir anything up, I'm just curious. I kept Aeluroscalabotes many many years ago, probably 14 by now, and the vast majority of my animals that I kept were from Borneo. I believe Wai Lui had numerous babies from animals collected in Borneo long ago. I'm not even sure if he is keeping geckos any more since I haven't talked to him in so long. Lots of things have changed since I have been keeping geckos, so just trying to figure out what's going on these days. I see species that I used to breed and sell for $75 go for $500 now which I assume is related to export regulations etc. I'm astounded at how different the lay of the land is now.

Regards,

Steve

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Originally Posted by gekkocorner

I came home today to find that one of my Borneo females looked very 'empty'. After removing most of the stuff in the terrarium I found these two perfect eggs burried next to a potted plant.

Now the countdown begins to see some green eyed babies.

**Riverside Reptiles** · #8 09-07-2010, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by seschafer

Hi Steven,

Congratulations! This is one of my favorite species. I love their cryptic nature. What do you mean by the first Borneo eggs in the US? Is this a ver rare occurrence now? Not trying to stir anything up, I'm just curious. I kept Aeluroscalabotes many many years ago, probably 14 by now, and the vast majority of my animals that I kept were from Borneo. I believe Wai Lui had numerous babies from animals collected in Borneo long ago. I'm not even sure if he is keeping geckos any more since I haven't talked to him in so long. Lots of things have changed since I have been keeping geckos, so just trying to figure out what's going on these days. I see species that I used to breed and sell for $75 go for $500 now which I assume is related to export regulations etc. I'm astounded at how different the lay of the land is now.

Regards,

Steve

Steve, please go into more detail as to what you were breeding 14 years ago as there's likely quite a bit difference as to availability now as there was then. These green eyed striped "felinus" have just come in to the US from Borneo and as far as I know, none of us here in the states have produced true cbb of this form of them. And these that Steven has will be the first ch of them if they hatch. The most common locale in captive collections these days are collected from Cameron Highlands (with dark/black eyes) and the rare Jahor province silvered eyed felinus which is still undescribed. These stripped green eyeds are considered undescribed as well. Would love to hear your old experience with them though.

seschafer · #9 09-07-2010, 11:46 PM

Ethan,

Honestly, when I was working with them long ago, we had one kind . . . Cat Geckos . . . that was it. No silver eyes, no green eyes, nothing like that. I was just happy to have them at all. Our biggest issue was the "stones" that you all seemed to have conquered now. I got most of mine from Wai Lui and he had them collected from Borneo as well as some other locations. Wai had access to some amazing animals. I got my first Teratoscincus roborowski (which seem to be incredibly common now)and undescribed Goniurosaurs (again extremely common now) through him. He acquired the first Cyrtodactylus elok I had ever seen. I'm not sure if there are any photos of my A. felinus out there, but photos of a number of the geckos I kept can be found on the GGA site. If there aren't any up there then I don't have them in digital format, but I can take a look to see if I have any in print or slides. I'd be interested in comparing those that I had to the ones available today. Yuri Kaverkin may have gotten some from Wai back then as well, but I don't really recall.

Steve

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Originally Posted by Riverside Reptiles

Steve, please go into more detail as to what you were breeding 14 years ago as there's likely quite a bit difference as to availability now as there was then. These green eyed striped "felinus" have just come in to the US from Borneo and as far as I know, none of us here in the states have produced true cbb of this form of them. And these that Steven has will be the first ch of them if they hatch. The most common locale in captive collections these days are collected from Cameron Highlands (with dark/black eyes) and the rare Jahor province silvered eyed felinus which is still undescribed. These stripped green eyeds are considered undescribed as well. Would love to hear your old experience with them though.

**Riverside Reptiles** · #10 09-07-2010, 11:58 PM

Steve it would be great if you could come up with some print photos of your old felinus. There's only a few pics on the GGA site and they're not anything great. I know that Yuri said that he had one of these Borneo type felinus long ago and was never able to find a mate. He has acquired a pair recently though and gotten some eggs from them. Unfortunately his male just passed away. So, all in all, there's very few of this particular type in captivity these days. I love the cats. You may want to try again with this species now that there are true cbb's available. It's a big difference compared to trying to acclimate the wc's.