[JAW29]

Hi,

I breed these two varieties of Aeluroscalabotes felinus since few years .

I'm looking for information about the place of potential picking up of this variety.
Variety which I indicate under the name of "star dust eyes" to separate him from the "silver eyes" one (native of Johor).
If you have any information about this, thanks to give me them.

[Riverside Reptiles]

I don't see the difference between the two.

[JAW29]

The first one has less silver in the eyes. I'll try to take a picture from another one or another picture from this to show in best conditions the difference between the two forms. In real condtions, the difference is more evident

[JAW29]

Hi,

This is an picture about one femelle which present the less silver spots in the eyes.

sorry, for the conditions of this picture, I take it with another camera.


the silver spots eyes are less visibles but the difference with silver eyes is more visible.

What do you think about this specimen?

[Riverside Reptiles]

I've bred a lot of silver eyeds and the amount of "silver" seems to be fairly variable. Some just seem to have lighter eyes than others. Now here's a specimen that Yuri posted a pic of that came from Borneo that has some very different eyes:

[Pierre]

Jean Michel ask that question because we both used to have(and Jean Michel still has)silver eyed from three different origins.
some of them were local specific from Johor,they came from Marcus.Q.

their eyes were quite dark "silver eyed speaking".
they were looking quite close as this specimen on an Malaysia exporter website:

we also had some animals from a Danish tarentula keeper,none local specific and they were all a lot more "silver eyed"than the ones from Johor we had.



as far as we know,they were sent to UE from a spider exporter.

could they have been collected somewhere else than Johor?
is the amount of silver related to different silver eyed populations(and locations) in the wild?

[Riverside Reptiles]

My original silver eyeds all came from Marcus from Johor.
Some of the offspring have had very light colored eyes like this one:


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Some have darker eyes like this one:


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Here's one with REALLY dark eyes:


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Another with very bright eyes:


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All of the above are offspring from the same group of specimens that I got from Marcus. So I think it's just a variable trait.

NOW...to answer your question about silver eyed locale...Marcus did claim at one point to have found some in a different region than Johor. However, he never said where they were from nor did he ever post any pictures of them. And none of those specimens ever surfaced (as far as I know) for sale in the US.

[JAW29]

Hi,


Does The felinus which you name " one with really dark eyes" arise from a couple of silver-eyes from Johor supplied by Marcus?

[Riverside Reptiles]

Originally Posted by JAW29

Hi,


Does The felinus which you name " one with really dark eyes" arise from a couple of silver-eyes from Johor supplied by Marcus?

Yes, all of the above pictures that I posted are from Johor silver eyes supplied from Marcus (from the first group that arrived in the US).

[JAW29]

Hi Etan,

thanks for your answer

all of the the " silver eyes" that I have got from Marcus had dark eyes with few silver spots.
And those of the second group than I called "silver eyes" are those with bright silver eyes.
They were coming from two different sellers ( danish and german).

This to explain my question about two differents "silver eyes" localities or two differents forms.

So, I decide to isolate theses two differents "forms" to try to see the real caracteristics of theirs owns hatchlings...

maybe, you would have elements of reflexion or personal experiment of breeding these specie to be communicated me and allowing me to spare time or, at least, to avoid a choice of breeding deprived of sense?

But, It will be difficult to draw from viable conclusions from isolated reproductions or from groups of breeding of this scale...