Hainanensis or Lichtenfelderii?

Animal34343 · #1 01-03-2009, 09:17 PM

Here is my pair. Can anyone tell the difference between the two species? They were originally wild caught.
Male:

Female:

crestedtimm · #2 01-03-2009, 09:23 PM

By my gut, Im going hainanensis based on the fact that the nuchal loop continues to the snout, and based on the snout length. I will try to remember to check my book over the weekend and get back to you.

Jacob, based on your affinity with Goniurosaurus, Im thinking you need the Eyelash gecko book, by Seufner and Verlag,

Timmm

Animal34343 · #3 01-03-2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by crestedtimm

By my gut, Im going hainanensis based on the fact that the nuchal loop continues to the snout, and based on the snout length. I will try to remember to check my book over the weekend and get back to you.

Jacob, based on your affinity with Goniurosaurus, Im thinking you need the Eyelash gecko book, by Seufner and Verlag,

Timmm

I've already got it. It says the only difference is the number of eyelid fringe scales and that the back of hainanensis has more tubercles. I thought I remember reading that lichtenfelderii was less common and most of the wc's were hainanensis.

R.E.F · #4 01-04-2009, 02:29 AM

I will also say that is looks more like Goniurosaurus hainanensis.

dartfrog · #5 01-04-2009, 04:07 AM

Hey,

You´re right most of the animals are hainanensis cb or wc.
So I´am quite sure that you´ve got some hainanensis.
Here in Germany it`s not so hard to get some true lichtenfelderi.
They´re only a bit more expensive then the hainanensis.
But I guess it isn´t so easy in the USA.

Best Regards
André

cindy · #6 01-04-2009, 12:34 PM

Hi Andre,

I see that you own two G. yamashinea. Could you please post a picture off them, cause I'm quite curious to find out what they look like!

I think your Goni's are haianensis, but that's purely based on the fact that lichtenfelderii is less common.
They look great anyhow!
Kind regards,

Cindy

Animal34343 · #7 01-04-2009, 02:25 PM

Thanks for the replies everyone. They were originally sold to me as lichtenfelderii, but I was pretty sure they were hainanensis.

Geckos and Goannas · #8 01-04-2009, 10:57 PM

That I know of the only true litchs in the U.S. are traced back to like ten pairs that Henkel imported. Im not 100% sure though. I know Phil Tremper has true litchs though. Also most WC are sold as G. litchtenfelderi or G. lichtenfelderi hiananensis; which is untrue. G. haianensis isnt a supspecies any more.

Animal34343 · #9 01-05-2009, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Geckos and Goannas

That I know of the only true litchs in the U.S. are traced back to like ten pairs that Henkel imported. Im not 100% sure though. I know Phil Tremper has true litchs though. Also most WC are sold as G. litchtenfelderi or G. lichtenfelderi hiananensis; which is untrue. G. haianensis isnt a supspecies any more.

Ok, so if I want true litchenfelderii I'll have to talk to Phil Tremper.