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Old 01-28-2009, 03:31 PM
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I am probably going to get another gecko - and I thought a Chinese cave gecko (Goniurosaurus luii) would be a good choice.

I have a couple questions about them.

1. Is a ten gallon tank a sufficient sized-tank for a single adult G. luii?

2. Is coconut fibre a good substrate for cave geckos?

3. Would a cork bark tube and a cork flat be good hiding and climibing places for Goni's? I have seen others use them in pictures on here and thought that it would be a good idea.

4. Are live plants good for cave geckos? What are some good species for them?

5. Should I provide a calcium dish (I will still dust food with calcium)?

6. About how much does a young captive bred Goniurosaurus luii cost on average? And just wondering (not planning on getting one), how much does a wild caught one cost?

7. Are cave geckos okay for intermediate geckokeepers? I have a leopard gecko and a crested gecko (a fire skink also) and I am fairly experienced with reptiles.


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Hi. I just want to let you know good luck finding a luii. there arnt nearly as many here in the U.S. as there are in Europe. you more than likely going to end up with a G. hiananensis which i recomend more anyways for a beginer. They are usually cheaper also. they run about $65-90 as CB juvies but more likely $65-75. you might find a WC for 45-60 but i dont recomend it. I have some G. kuroiwae and G. spendens availible but I dont recomend them for a beginner goni Keeper. And they are much more expensive. Some people might have '' G. lichtenfelderi'' for sale but 99.99% they are wrong, they are G. hiananensis. I only know of Phil Tremper that has lichtenfelderi in the U.S. but I know there is others.

A ten gallon will fit a adult goni nicely. I use pothos as live plants and korean rock ferns. I use a calcium dish for my females and dust once or twice a week. I use zoo meds eco earth as bedding and cork hiding places. keep them between 75-80F and 70-90% humidity with a 8-12 crix a week and they are fairly easy for a moderate herper to keep. let us know if you have any other Qs.
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Thanks.

I'm hoping for a luii, but if all I can find is a hainanensis, they are nice too. I don't really like the appearance of any species in the kuriowae group - such as splendens, etc.

I wasn't planning on a wild caught, I was just wondering the price difference. My fire skink is a wild caught and luckily I haven't had any problems yet, but I always try for captive bred when possible.


I have two more questions.

1. Are gonis generally handleable? I don't need something I can take out and "play with", but are they easy to handle when trying to transfer when cleaning cages and stuff like that?

2. My house stays about seventy-nine degrees Farenheit during the summer (a little cooler at night) and goes down to about sixty-seven degrees during the winter. Would a 24/7 fifteen watt purple bulb be good year round, or should I provide more heat in the winter? I like naturally cooling off my reptiles in the winter even if they are not breeding just so they can brumate like they would in nature (not with hatchlings though).
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1) There are two ansewers to this Q. Yes and No. They can be handled for a short period like you said by moving them to e temperary enclosure. They can be vary fast when they want to be. but no I wouldnt take them out just to handle them.

2) As for this one I would say not to use any other aditional heat then is already in the room. they need to stay cool and cant handle temps over 80F. Basically your temps are fine.
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Goniurosaurus hainanensis
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Coleonyx brevis
C. mitratus
Holodactylus africanus
Eurydactylodes agricolae
Phelsuma standingi
Varanus acanthurus brachyurus
V. t. tristis
V. prasinus
V. beccarii
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Okay, I think that is everything, but if I need to know something else, I'll ask again in this topic.

Thanks.
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1) There are two ansewers to this Q. Yes and No. They can be handled for a short period like you said by moving them to e temperary enclosure. They can be vary fast when they want to be. but no I wouldnt take them out just to handle them.

2) As for this one I would say not to use any other aditional heat then is already in the room. they need to stay cool and cant handle temps over 80F. Basically your temps are fine.
i dont know if you know anything about cresties, but do they have pretty much the same requirements? (Minus the arboreal part)
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I have a crested gecko and know quite a bit about them.

I am going to start setting up the terrarium soon.
* 10 gallon tank with screen lid
* Inch of Eco Earth substrate
* Large cork tube
* Shallow water dish big enough for soaking
* Small food dish
* Pyrex glass calcium dish
* Live micans Philodendron
* Bamboo shoots

Sound good?
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I have a crested gecko and know quite a bit about them.

I am going to start setting up the terrarium soon.
* 10 gallon tank with screen lid
* Inch of Eco Earth substrate
* Large cork tube
* Shallow water dish big enough for soaking
* Small food dish
* Pyrex glass calcium dish
* Live micans Philodendron
* Bamboo shoots

Sound good?
Is this for a crestie or a goni? sounds more like a cilliatus tank, no offense if it isnt. I would deffiently NOT use a dish big enough for soaking. remember, geckos cant swim. I would use cork halves insted of tubes for gonis and forget the bambo. As far as I know they wont like it or use it.
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Pristurus carteri
Strophurus williamsi
Goniurosaurus hainanensis
G. kuroiwae
G. splendens
G. luii
Eublepharis macularius
Coleonyx brevis
C. mitratus
Holodactylus africanus
Eurydactylodes agricolae
Phelsuma standingi
Varanus acanthurus brachyurus
V. t. tristis
V. prasinus
V. beccarii
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That is for a G. luii.

Forget the bamboo. I'll go with a smaller water dish, too.
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Thanks.

I'm hoping for a luii, but if all I can find is a hainanensis, they are nice too. I don't really like the appearance of any species in the kuriowae group - such as splendens, etc.



you dont like the appearance of this one? tsss






looks like most species are harder to find in the States. many of those Goniurosaurus are bred in good numbers here, you might have problems to get rid of some of your offspring like luii for instance, they are kinda cheap. Nonetheless, all cave geckos are such beautiful animals
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