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01-23-2013, 02:12 PM #1
New to Cresties- seeking advice prior to bringing him home
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I am new to the forum and have a few questions I want confirmed before I bring the new fella home.
I have the pet shop holding him until I am satisfied that the Terranium is all set up properly.
First off the kit!
I Bought the Exo Terra Sri Lanka Habitat Kit 45x45x60. I have the canopy top with one 25 watt sun glo (annoying that I can’t put a 15w moon glo in other side with independent on/offs!!! But life goes on.
The temp with no light on at all is 72f during day and 68-69 at night (ambient room temp) with humidty of 35% (pre misting for first time.)
With light on temp at very top next to mesh is 82.6f (all readings with the digital thermo/hygro combo meter.) at mid level in tank it is 75-76 and on the plantation soil at bottom it is 72-73
At night with no lights the drop is to 68-69f
When I misted before going to work I got the Humidity up to 91% then when I got home (after 11 hrs in office) it had dropped to 36% on account of the lights but this was with the sensor right at the top. I moved the sensor to mid level a little further from the bulb as I think this might have distorted to reading. When I misted at night last night I went up to 87% and when I woke up it was 75% so I toped up to 85% and we’ll see what it is at when I get home tonight.
So my real question is if I get back today and it is around 45-55% would it be safe to bring him home on Saturday?
Sorry for the long post and I’ll be sure to post picture of Gordon (Gordon Gekko, loved wall street!!) when I get him home
Thanks for all the advise in advance
Last edited by Jhmw1; 01-23-2013 at 02:15 PM.
01-23-2013, 02:59 PM #2
I won't comment on the crestie thing, but I have an Exo Terra, and if the top is screen on yours like mine is, trying to hold humidity in there will be useless. The problem with misting is that, if your enclosure isn't designed to hold the humidity at all, it'll drop back down within a couple hours. You'll need to cover part of the screen to keep it humid. That's my experience anyway.
01-23-2013, 03:12 PM #3
I thought the canopy top covering half of the top would help I can move the canopy top to the front and put a towel over the back half so it's not unsightly!!
01-23-2013, 08:26 PM #4
i tried to post this earlier and it didn't work for some reason...
according to some of the more experienced keepers, the drop in humidity throughout the day is ok, just don't let it get below the 50's and keep misting like you have been. also make sure to keep a dish of fresh water in his tank at all times.
i personally haven't found any problem keeping humidity up in the type of tank you have even without covering the lid. make sure that your substrate is good and clumpy: not too wet, not dry. live plants (repotted in fertilizer-free potting soil) will help. honestly, the more foliage, the better: whether it's live or fake, it will hold moisture and make your gecko feel more secure.
speaking of feeling secure....how big is your gecko? most people suggest keeping smaller ones in small set-ups. i have mine in a plastic kritter keeper and have no problems with humidity and he seems to be settling in very well. paper towel for substrate is pretty easy to keep clean, but you could use some of your potting soil if you like. i'll move him to a larger exo-terra when he's grown into it.Nate
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01-23-2013, 08:58 PM #5
to quote thorrshamri's care sheet....
"Water and drinking
I would not recommend as much humidity as many keepers mention. I have kept for example pairs who were never sprayed without any issue. The precise environment in which crested geckos live is not so humid. Neither would I think a small fountain will help –it would more likely cause injuries if it has sharp edges, and will also cause prey insects to drown inside it and mould. Likewise, hygrometers tend to stress out more the keeper than the geckos themselves!
For these reasons, I recommend:
1) A shallow water dish in each enclosure
2) That the substrate is kept constantly SLIGHTLY moist
3) Light sprayings every evening; no need for a misting system, no need neither to worry if you are away from home and can’t spray enclosures for a few days!"
juveniles require a less lax approach to their hydration than established adults, but i take the above to mean that we don't need to stress over precise humidity for these guys.Nate
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01-23-2013, 10:17 PM #6
He's 4 months maybe 4-5 inches snout to tail. I'll load it up with some more silk plants etc to give him loads of hiding space
01-23-2013, 10:40 PM #7
you will find it much easier to maintain the right moisture when he grows into his "big boy tank" (or until you plant the exo he's in).
my yearlings, which are still fairly small and are living in large CK's with fake plants / paper towels, are misted every day to make sure they stay hydrated and shed well. my adults, in planted vivs, are misted very heavily about every other day (when I change the food).
they're fine. I've been keeping for several years and never had any shedding issues or problems. granted, it's only 3 cresties (and now down to 3 yearlings), but my leachie thrives with the same amount of misting, too.
during hot spells in the summer when my herp room is pushing the limit as far as temps go, I mist every day. this is like 2-3 weeks a year here in Seattle. I also watch them in the winter to make sure everyone continues to shed well (as the air gets drier overall in the winter, from running the heat).
anyways, I don't think it's necessary, based on my experience, to keep your crestie over 80% all day.Morelia spilota harrisoni * Liasis fuscus * Liasis mackloti * Liasis mackloti savuensis * Liasis olivaceous olivaceous* Anteresia maculosa * Python regius * Gekko gecko * Correlophus ciliatus * Blaesodactylus boiviniPost Thanks / Like - 0 Thanks, 1 Likescassicat4 liked this post
01-24-2013, 01:01 PM #8
If you want some additional info, do some research into the climate of New Caledonia.
Climate of the World: New Caledonia - Weather UK - weatheronline.co.uk
"The Climate of New Caledonia can be classified as Af climate, a hot, humid tropical climate with all months above 18°C. "
Strive to mimic a humid environment without overdoing it. Too much humidity can lead to mold problems in the enclosure. Too much humidity and insufficient heat can lead to RI issues.
Where I live, it's very dry, so I mist heavily at night and lightly twice a day while also including a water dish in the enclosure. None of my geckos have ever had any issues shedding or mold issues in the enclosure, and are thriving very well. Personally, I won't let the humidity drop below 30% at any time - this could be putting my geckos at risk of dehydration and shedding issues, as well as too low of humidity can also limit a gecko's ability to stick well to the glass.~Cassi~
01-25-2013, 12:39 AM #9
Brought him home he looks happy so I figure I'll leave him a few days to settle in.
Put half a bottle cap of CGD in with him at mid level (so he doesnt have to go all the way to the floor) and ill just let him be for say a week to acclimatise and learn his surroundings?
01-25-2013, 04:31 AM #10
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