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    I want to eventually upgrade my gecko into a bioactive enclosure. I was planning on going all out with live plants and a drainage layer and a good substrate mix. Then I was told about Josh's frogs bio bedding. They claim that no drainage layer is needed. What are thoughts on this? Is it possible to have a live planted bioactive without a drainage layer using this substrate?

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    I talked to someone at Josh's Frogs extensively about this and they do feel that it should be fine as long as you're not soaking the enclosure like you might for dart frogs. I do have it as a substrate without a drainage layer for one of my enclosures and have not had a lot of luck with the plants, but that's due to the light problem, not the substrate. Here's a Gecko Time article where it's discussed:
    Interview with Zach Brink of Josh's Frogs - Gecko Time - Gecko Time

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    Drainage layers depend upon the gecko you're housing and whether they require constant humidity or diurnal highs and lows.

    My crested gecko George is kept on a couple inches of Eco Earth's coco fiber. He is misted ~2x per day. I'm also keeping a 4 inch pot filled with pebbles to supplement George's humidity. When I keep a snake plant in his enclosure, it's potted in it's own pot.

    I keep some bow-fingered geckos, gliding geckos, and 1 Phyllurus platurus on layered substrates of
    • bottom layer = hydroton clay balls
    • mid-layer = weedblocker cloth
    • top layer = Eco Earth's coco fiber

    Add water to the Hydroton when necessary. The water seeps through the weedblocker cloth and does NOT cause mold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Drainage layers depend upon the gecko you're housing and whether they require constant humidity or diurnal highs and lows.

    My crested gecko George is kept on a couple inches of Eco Earth's coco fiber. He is misted ~2x per day. I'm also keeping a 4 inch pot filled with pebbles to supplement George's humidity. When I keep a snake plant in his enclosure, it's potted in it's own pot.

    I keep some bow-fingered geckos, gliding geckos, and 1 Phyllurus platurus on layered substrates of
    • bottom layer = hydroton clay balls
    • mid-layer = weedblocker cloth
    • top layer = Eco Earth's coco fiber

    Add water to the Hydroton when necessary. The water seeps through the weedblocker cloth and does NOT cause mold.
    Note that the poster is asking about Josh's Frogs new substrate that they claim does not require a hydroton drainage layer. I'm using it without the drainage with one of my gargs and so far it's working as advertised.

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    /\ I understood the Op's question.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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