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    A CHE would probably melt a plastic enclosure. I would suggest looking on Craigslist or local sales groups for glass terrariums - you can get some really good deals. Then you could safely use a CHE.

    Pangea sells a hygrometer/thermometer for around $12. I have used that and a temp gun, and have been happy with both. In the meantime, a regular incandescent bulb would at least give him some warmth until you can get a larger tank. I would try for sooner rather than later as well, especially with winter coming on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Is there some chance you could prioritize his upgrade to happen soon? Is there some common ground in your home where you could permanently relocate TR's home -- a warmer place? In TR's current home he has no place to climb. Cresties love to climb. That's one thing they do.

    I think an UTH would dry out the substrate too much. If damp Eco Earth's coco fiber is used for the substrate, coco fiber is an insulator. Heat won't get through. I don't know how a low wattage CHE would work with a plastic enclosure. I would think that a CHE would need to be mounted off the plastic.

    I prefer digital thermometers with probes over my temp gun.

    I offer my crestie that 15-25 watt incandescent bulb throughout the year. It's timed to go off at night. Admin Hilde keeps her home cooler and has bred cresties in the past.

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    Scroll down to post #8---LARGE Communal Crestie Hatchling & Juvenile Enclosures......Hilde or post 9 if you're watching right side numbers to see what she has done. Hilde does mention temperature there.

    Thank you. A larger enclosure is certainly a priority; but he's only been with us 3 days so we need to ensure he's eating.

    As you can see the substrate is paper towel currently so I imagine an UTH would be alright for that or I could put it on the side if necessary as well. CHE probably isn't the best idea right now. According to that link you pointed me to, it sounds like I shouldn't be concerned about the temp, so I'm just going to monitor things for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeckoLeen View Post
    A CHE would probably melt a plastic enclosure. I would suggest looking on Craigslist or local sales groups for glass terrariums - you can get some really good deals. Then you could safely use a CHE.
    On that note, I have been watching CL. There is a setup in the size I want that is already planted. Problem is I'm no botanist so I am unable to determine if the plants are gecko safe or not (probably are, it's a vertical terr.), But are there concerns (bacterial or otherwise) about putting my gecko in someone else's plants, soil, isopods, etc.?
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    Yup, there would be some concern about that. If the price is cheap enough, I'd say go with it, clean it out and sanitize well, and put your own plants/decor in it. If money is a concern, to start off with you can use paper towel substrate, and get very inexpensive fake plants/decor at thrift shops - just wash well. Or you can add potted plants for a bit more naturalistic environment. You can replace bit by bit over time as income allows, to get the tank the way you want it to look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TarzanicusRex View Post
    Thank you. A larger enclosure is certainly a priority; but he's only been with us 3 days so we need to ensure he's eating.

    As you can see the substrate is paper towel currently so I imagine an UTH would be alright for that or I could put it on the side if necessary as well. CHE probably isn't the best idea right now. According to that link you pointed me to, it sounds like I shouldn't be concerned about the temp, so I'm just going to monitor things for now.
    You're welcome.

    Although I have not tried it I don't see how side mounted heat mats can be very effective, since heat rises.

    Decent humidity for a crested gecko may be a challenge when using a heat mat. In addition, heat from a heat mat doesn't really heat a tall vivarium very well. Not too far off the ground, temps will drop to room temps.

    Did your potential CL vertical vivarium have any occupants in the past besides the clean up crew? Like GeckoLeen says, you could strip it, sanitize it thoroughly, and go from there.
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    If I'm tossing the plants, then it's not as attractive of a deal, but I'll keep my eye on it. Thank you for your feedback.

    I'm about to pull the trigger on a better thermometer, UTH & thermostat as his tank was 64.2 at 6am today. The UTH is a stopgap measure until we get a proper enclosure and then I will go for a CHE as needed. ZooMed terrarium over ExoTerra, anyone? I don't think that question has been asked before...

    In other news...
    Houston, we have fecal matter. I repeat, we have fecal matter.

    (of course it could have been from his meal prior to shipping)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TarzanicusRex View Post
    If I'm tossing the plants, then it's not as attractive of a deal, but I'll keep my eye on it. Thank you for your feedback.

    I'm about to pull the trigger on a better thermometer, UTH & thermostat as his tank was 64.2 at 6am today. The UTH is a stopgap measure until we get a proper enclosure and then I will go for a CHE as needed. ZooMed terrarium over ExoTerra, anyone? I don't think that question has been asked before...

    In other news...
    Houston, we have fecal matter. I repeat, we have fecal matter.

    (of course it could have been from his meal prior to shipping)
    Houston alert =

    Exo Terra vivs may come with stainless steel screen tops now. That's a bonus for spraying. Then there's no rust buildup if you occasionally spray through the screen. I don't know whether ZooMed does likewise.
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    I prefer the Exo Terra because of the center opening glass. It's much easier to take care of, and helps prevent escapes a bit better than the Zoo Med. Exo Terra also has a slight space underneath if you need to use a lamp stand or heat mat. I have both though, and both are good quality brands.
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    I've read people don't like the Exo Terra bc the top cross piece is problematic for placing lights?
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    So, originally we didn't want to deal with crickets b/c they just seem like a pain & I've been told and read from multiple sources that CGD alone is fine (but perhaps they won't grow as big). However, my son was holding his finger to the side of his enclosure and moving it around, and Tarzan's enormous eyeballs instantly focused on this with Raptor-like precision and eventually leaped at it. I am assuming this is hunting behavior and not anger or fighting behavior (correct me if I am wrong).

    Consequently, we are considering occasional crickets for some stimulation; as in 1-2 times a month as a treat. I can get them locally, but my question:

    Is it necessary to gutload &/or dust crickets if the CGD is providing everything they need & is their primary nutrient source; with crickets as an occasional exercise? Can I just dust? Or neither?

    I've never seen it mentioned anywhere, so I'm assuming there's a reason for it. I see that dusting w/CGD isn't recommended. Gutloading & dusting sounds like such a headache. Can you buy them pre-loaded? Are roaches or anything else easier to deal with for an 8gram crested in order to satisfy this fierce beast of prey?


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