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Old 10-13-2011, 07:21 PM
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Default Rare Phelsuma in US becoming available

I was glancing through the classified and was very surprised to see several species of Phelsuma for sale that have not been available for years.

Phelsuma cepediana is a pleasant surprise. Five years ago they were virtually unavailable via the general market. Seeing them in three classified is great. The co-op that started almost nine years ago has been successful.

I am hoping the next available Phelsuma will be the P. inexpectata. Several keepers are making efforts to get both male and females to hatch. Got the males to hatch. This year the hope is a whole batch of females.

P. ornata could be revived but the co-op members lack a male (the last died three years ago from old age). Keep your eyes open.

Co-ops can be successful but keepers have to be patient. It's worth it.
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Sounds awesome! Also sounds like someone needs to do an import from Hamm or somewhere over there to get a few of these super rare geckos!!
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Whilst I guess that cepediana, inexpectata and ornata are more common in Europe,males of some species such as inexpectata are still difficult to find.As are guimbeaui which I guess that you can get more readily from Hawaii.
So its not all bad news for all of you in the States.
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I personally would like to see more CB quadriocellata and dubia. Cheap WC animals get the blind eye from most people as they have trouble selling them or making a decent profit. Cb quads are rarer then most Mauritius species. It would be nice if we could get more barbouri, breviceps,mutabillis here too.
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I too am surprised P. quadriocellata are not more common. They're beautiful and easy to keep!
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I am not sure exactly why day gecko that used to be readily available suddenly become unavailable but I think it is devastating.

This re-occurring theme is one reason I don't like putting aside breeding a species to work with other species. I quit working with P. quadriocellata because I thought they were available from so many people.

Instead I devoted my efforts on solving the problems of skewed sexual ratio in some species. That is now solved in P. cepediana, P. guimbeaui, and P. inexpectata.

I don't keep secret how I do it. The more people know how to be successful the greater the chance these species stick around. Working co-cooperatively with keepers is my preferred way.


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I too am surprised P. quadriocellata are not more common. They're beautiful and easy to keep!
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Yeah I am amazed too that P quads aren't available as CB.

Leann, do you have any links or info you could share about the success in getting mixed sex ratios out of your eggs? I just got my first P guimbeaui and once I get a male I'll definately be needing that info.
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My blog on this site has notes:
http://www.geckosunlimited.com/community/blogs/lldg/

The P. cepediana project is here:
PhelsumaWeb.nl • Toon onderwerp - U.S. Phelsuma cepediana breeding project

We coach everyone in the co-ops while they are trying to produce good male/female ratios. Having close contact with a successful keeper is great.
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Discussions about obtaining animals can sometimes be a touchy subject but anyone interested in the Phelsuma genus might like to watch the below video about the environmental emergency in Madagascar.

Link to video:
Deforestation- Day Geckos
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I didn't see a link.

I strongly believe in supporting captive bred programs. Wish we could bring in captive bred Phelsuma from Europe but it is difficult.
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