[Thereptileprincess]

I am trying to create a 75-100 gallon community living viv with a gecko species and tree frog species, with similar husbandry needs. I have seen very many community tanks with Phelsuma in it, but after reading care sheets on them I have learned they can be aggressive (some species more so than others). My question is are Phelsuma a bad choice for a community viv? Or will housing a pair/trio in a 100 gallon minimize or eradicate any aggressive behavior?

[lauraleellbp]

One of the few geckos I've seen do well in a mixed species setup is Lygodactylus williamsi with dart frogs.

[daggekko]

I've seen Phelsuma kept with Mantellas at a public aquarium, but I don't know how long they lasted and what the outcome was. It was years inbetween when I saw it and the next time I was there(it was gone), but in memory of it I believe the lighting was way too dull for Phelsuma. And maybe too wet as well in the enclosure. Have you looked up any of the Madagascan tree frog species?(Genus Heterixalus). I doubt you'll find them CB, so that will be a huge challenge for you if you are to mix species. I would try some smaller species of Phelsuma though so hopefully the frogs will not become food.

Phelsuma can be aggressive in general. Usually a pair is better than a trio(but some species can be housed in trios typically). A 100 gallon enclosure is a lot of space for one pair of Phelsuma. If you are going to have other lizards in there as well then you might have issues, but I am not sure.

I would make sure there are 4+ basking areas to help avoid conflicts and do as much research as possible about each species. Also, have backup enclosures incase you do find that one of the species will not work out for you.

[Thereptileprincess]

Thank you. I do not plan on housing ANYTHING with my darts haha! It will be a tree frog species. But thank you I will probably do a sexed pair in a 75 gallon, they will be the only other thing in there besides the frogs.

[daggekko]

Oh and just because you get a male and female doesn't mean they will get along. Introduce them to the tank within a minute of each other. I personally would add the female first, followed quickly by the male.

[Thereptileprincess]

Thank you I planned on buying them together so that will be no problem!

[hexentanz]

What tree frogs will you be adding? Some get quite large and will devour a day gecko whole.

[daggekko]

A group of amphibians generally termed "African Reed Frogs" are a very good choice. Other than the fact that a bunch of WC animals are going to get mixed together, this group of frogs stay very small. Usually around 1" length. They could probably eat a hatchling Phelsuma but never an adult.

I would think the harder part of this mix is the fact that the geckos will be able to eat slightly larger insects where as small frogs need much smaller prey.

I think the most commonly imported Genus will be
Afrixalus
Hyperolius

If you have access to an importer you can find a variety of colors from these frogs. Usually once they have reached the pet shop you get only the dull looking ones. One of the really cool looking ones has a common name something like "Madagascan Starry Nite Tree Frog"

[Thereptileprincess]

Reed frogs are nocturnal and would disturb the geckos at night. I have not decided which tree frog to get. But I when I decide on a species of day geckos I will take into consideration size, appetites, nocturnal/diurnal, temps/ humidity levels, and tempermant of both species involved.

[daggekko]

I can't think of any tree frogs that aren't nocturnal. Do you know of any that like day time activities?

Mantellas and Darts seem like the only day time critters to me as far as amphibians go.