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    Quote Originally Posted by Bali8888 View Post
    I starated using the ca+d3 powder from may 10. I think more and more she got too much calcium. She reserved too much on her neck within too little time. I feed her every second day two times and after i skip three days. The last time when i feeded her i had a bad feeling. I didnt give her powder, bacause i felt she get too much. I thinking about temperatures too. She didnt crushed when i bought her but she were into a small box, with couple little hole, and the temeratures was about 28 celsius in the market hall. I felt all my tips wasnt too strong what i listed before. She dont want to eat yet. I worried about her. Now i using uv lamp, and i will moving outdoor for sunbath maybe it will help to process the calcium. (My girlfriend have two leopard gecko, and a madagascar day gecko. She dont using any calcium and she have healthy animals. After that, I'm not sure it's important to give calcium so many times as couple article write.)
    1. When did you start offering UVB through the mesh screen top to your day gecko?
    2. What strength UVB?
    3. What brand is that bulb or tube? Exo Terra, Zoo Med, other?
    4. ***A small amount of weekly vitamin D3 (or UVB) is required to process the powdered calcium each gecko gets via dusting. With NO vitamin D3 (or inadequate UVB), a gecko can't process calcium.
    5. ***The "trick" is to find the right amount of powdered supplements and UVB.
    6. Even with D3 (or UVB), some additional powdered calcium may be required when a gecko only eats insects!
    7. One reason to use powdered calcium via light dusting is that insects naturally contain too much phosphorus. Lightly dusting insects with calcium rebalances their phosphorus content.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 06-30-2019 at 04:04 PM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    (My girlfriend have two leopard gecko, and a madagascar day gecko. She dont using any calcium and she have healthy animals. After that, I'm not sure it's important to give calcium so many times as couple article write.)
    I separated these replies for clarity. I also amended my reply.

    Regarding your girlfriend's 2 leopard geckos and her madagascar day gecko.
    1. Are each of those 3 geckos kept under UVB?
    2. Do they "bask" or stick out body parts like a tail, a foot, or half a body right under the UVB on a regular basis?
    3. How old are these geckos now?
    4. Does she use a multivitamin for her leos and for her madagascar day gecko? Sometimes those multivitamins also contain healthy levels of calcium as well as the vitamins.
    5. If so, what is the name of that multivitamin? Nutrobal multivitamins?
    6. How long has she kept each gecko?
    7. If your girlfriend feeds her madagascar day gecko a complete powdered diet, there is a chance it will be OK.
    8. I don't think leopard geckos can survive LONG-TERM without calcium, D3 (or UVB), and some multivitamins.
    9. What do you and your girlfriend feed the crickets your geckos eat? A huge part of feeding insects to geckos is the diet insects are fed prior to being fed off to a gecko -- any gecko.


    I have kept 3 Phelsuma barbouri (a medium small size day gecko) for about 16 years. Each is housed separately in enclosures that are only 12 inches high. That's because Phelsuma barbouri require horizontally oriented enclosures! Each has a Zoo Med ReptiSun 5.0 UVB T8 tube that I change every year. Since they are adults, they are usually fed 2x per week. At each feeding they get 2 half grown crickets. One week all the crickets are plain (not dusted), because UVB is their D3 source. The next week 1 out of 2 crickets are lightly dusted with Zoo Med's Reptivite multivitamins without D3 at just one of their two feedings that week.

    Leos kept without UVB get different amounts of supplements depending upon their ages. I have used Zoo Med supplements for years.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 06-30-2019 at 04:08 PM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    She has 6years old lepard geckos. She get an uvb lamp after buoght the madagascarian gecko and try it for leopard geckos but they hate it. They dont stay under the uvb lamp (dont ask tha watts and uvb/uva ratio i dont know). They live 6 year without uvb and any calcium, d3 powder. Eating mealworm and crickets. They breeding too. Female has 2 egg now. Madagascarian gecko a little less then one years old. Somtime he get uvb lights for 1-2 hour / day.

    I started to using uvb for 2 days bcause i modified my terrarium. I have Arcadia ShadeDweller Mini T5 UVB Kit 7.0 8W. She is better maybe but dont want to eat yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bali8888 View Post
    She has 6years old lepard geckos. She get an uvb lamp after buoght the madagascarian gecko and try it for leopard geckos but they hate it. They dont stay under the uvb lamp (dont ask tha watts and uvb/uva ratio i dont know). They live 6 year without uvb and any calcium, d3 powder. Eating mealworm and crickets. They breeding too. Female has 2 egg now. Madagascarian gecko a little less then one years old. Somtime he get uvb lights for 1-2 hour / day.

    I started to using uvb for 2 days bcause i modified my terrarium. I have Arcadia ShadeDweller Mini T5 UVB Kit 7.0 8W. She is better maybe but dont want to eat yet.
    I hope that day by day your wee day gecko gets stronger and that soon she'll feel like eating once again! I appreciate everything you've told us, Bali.

    Good wishes for your girlfriend's geckos, too.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Day geckos usually require a little more UVB than leopard geckos do. I apologize if you already figured that out.

    With a proper photo regulation setup, reptiles will have access to a variety of zones.

    Please click this link for Zoo Med's lighting chart. This chart shows the different Ferguson Zones of commonly kept reptiles. Both leopard geckos and day geckos require Shade and Partial Sun. Leopard geckos are in Zone 1 (0.4 - 0.7 UVI). Day geckos are in Zone 2 (0.7-1.0 UVI) and require a little more UVB.

    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 07-01-2019 at 11:42 PM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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