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    Yea, it aint easy to get any viable informations this days.

    This top ventilations is not really practical, that's why its problematic. Normally the full question would be "5% ok?". On Polish forum I got one asnwer- 5% Repti Glo inside the terrarium, protected by anything really. But Frans opinion would be really valuable, so I am not doing anything yet.

    I am thinking about bigger enclosure, but I need to fix this damn terrarium anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sad_mad View Post
    Yea, it aint easy to get any viable informations this days.

    This top ventilations is not really practical, that's why its problematic. Normally the full question would be "5% ok?". On Polish forum I got one asnwer- 5% Repti Glo inside the terrarium, protected by anything really. But Frans opinion would be really valuable, so I am not doing anything yet.

    I am thinking about bigger enclosure, but I need to fix this damn terrarium anyway.
    I did notice that you also asked Reptile Lighting about Exo Terra's 5% Repti Glo for inside the terrarium. Unless Exo Terra has vastly improved the specs of their bulbs, Exo Terra bulbs are poor. I have not heard anything good about those bulbs!

    Arcadia and Zoo Med ReptiSun bulbs and tubes are TOPS in the industry. I would be comfortable with either of those as long as it is the proper strength.

    Is there some way to remove the current top and replace it with mesh? Is the top attached with silcone sealant?

    Do you know what "hardware cloth" is? In the USA hardware cloth is a metal mesh one can buy at hardware stores. Hardware cloth comes in many size grids. I bought some 1/8 inch grid. This may need a frame to support weight.
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    I would like to avoid Exo Terra, but I do not know if Arcadias 6% or 7% bulbs will be fine. Repti Glo at least got one vote.

    The top is connected to the small piece of glass protecting the guides from the front and to the guides itself (I dunno if "guides" it a correct word- the thingies to keep the front of terrarium ), so I would be afraid to remove it whole.
    Perhaps you know some reliable way to cut part of the glass while its still in place?

    Getting some metal mesh is no problem at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sad_mad View Post
    I would like to avoid Exo Terra, but I do not know if Arcadias 6% or 7% bulbs will be fine. Repti Glo at least got one vote.

    The top is connected to the small piece of glass protecting the guides from the front and to the guides itself (I dunno if "guides" it a correct word- the thingies to keep the front of terrarium ), so I would be afraid to remove it whole.
    Perhaps you know some reliable way to cut part of the glass while its still in place?

    Getting some metal mesh is no problem at all.
    Guides = the frame around the top OR hinges???

    I don't know how to cut part of the glass (in place).
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    It is 2:15 AM in Oregon.

    I'm off to feed some geckos.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    It would be the easiest solution (if there is a way to cut just the part of the top). More complicated operations could potentially mean some mistake and the need to rehouse the lizard for a longer time than I am comfortable with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    It is 2:15 AM in Oregon.

    I'm off to feed some geckos.
    Damn, the Internet is a magical place.
    Thank you and nice feeding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sad_mad View Post
    Damn, the Internet is a magical place.
    Thank you and nice feeding.
    You're welcome.

    Yes, we are connected 24/7 with the entire world. Sometimes there are advantages.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Answer from Fran Baines on Facebook Group Reptile Lightning. This explains everything plus some more.
    Hi. These grow to be big lizards, up to 30cm long, so you're going to need a much larger terrarium for him. But if he is still small, and you add some more climbing branches (ideally, living plants; a small weeping fig (Ficus benjamina) for example) that terrarium might be ok for a short while.
    As for UVB, these are diurnal arboreal geckos, and they are partial sun baskers (between Ferguson Zones 2 and 3); they bask in small patches of sunlight between the leaves, in the rainforests where they live. So you need to add some "artificial sunlight" to the top of the vivarium, with plenty of dappled leafy shade below.
    For UVB and basking warmth, you have a problem because both lamps should definitely be above the mesh screen, but you'll find it difficult to fit them both on that little strip of mesh. What a pity that you can't remove the glass and make an all-mesh top... A UV Index of about 3.0 - 4.0 right under the mesh will be safe; it does not want to be any stronger than that because the gecko is arboreal so will climb right up to the mesh, even walking across it upside down.

    My first choice for the UVB would have been the Arcadia ProT5 Shade Dweller 7%UVB but it is 30cm long; although it would sit comfortably to one side of the mesh, there would be no space to fit the basking lamp, which must be in a dome reflector to hold it safely over the mesh.
    So have a look at a ZooMed Mini Combo Deep Dome Reflector like this: https://www.reptiles.swelluk.com/zoo...e-lamp-fixture
    and in one of the lampholders, you could put a low-wattage basking bulb (the one you have already might be OK, but measure the temperature it reaches on the mesh and on the nearest branches below, and control it with a dimming thermostat to a safe 35C surface temperature, air temperature elsewhere in the vivarium 23-25C.
    In the other lampholder you can put a UVB compact fluorescent lamp. Because of the small size of the dome, you are restricted to the smallest size of lamp, too (or it sticks out below the dome, and so the dome will not rest on the mesh.) The ZooMed Reptisun 5.0 13watt compact fluorescent lamp will be safe to use, even at close range. In a dome, resting on mesh, with this lamp I measured UVI 5.9 right beneath the mesh.
    I would advise against using the only other small 13watt lamp which will fit into this dome, the ExoTerra 100. This has a much stronger output, giving a UVI of nearly UVI 10 right beneath the mesh, which is much too high.

    But when you get a bigger vivarium for him, I would definitely advise changing to one with a full mesh top and use a linear tube, something like an Arcadia ProT5 60cm, 24watt fixture with the 6%UVB T5-HO tube.
    You could still use the basking lamp, and put a daylight (non-UVB) compact lamp in the second lampholder to increase the visible light, which would be good for the gecko and any plants as well.
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    , Fran! She had just the suggestions you've been searching for!

    Thanks to you for sharing her wisdom.

    How are you going to proceed?
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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