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    Hello,

    recently I bought P.m. grandis with fully furnished terrarium. Everything is fine with it except for the lights. There are 2 bulbs inside- 1 compact UVB bulb and 1 exo terra basking light. Both of these are inside the enclosure and are not protected. I plan to put the basking light outside the terrarium and change the compact for normal UV tube.

    My question is- will the Arcadia 7% (8W, 30cm) be enough? Terrarium is 30/40/60 cm. If not- which one should I use? Preferably to be put inside, coz the metal mesh at the top is only around 10 cm wide.

    Thanks and sorry for my English.

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    You could add to the gecko's vitamin D3 dose by dusting the feeders with calcium with vitamin D3 and then whatever you do with the lights is not so crucial.

    Aliza

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    I plan to supp a bit of D3 with food anyway, maybe once a week. Still I would like to put the best light I can, it's always easier to have something that works by itself.

    Thx for your answer.
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    Sorry for bumping, but I am kind of in a hurry- I want Phelsuma to have everything she needs ASAP.

    So- I found 3 options good for this terrarium:

    -Arcadia Shade Dweller 7% 8w
    -Arcadia Forest 6% 14w
    -Repti Glo 5.0 14w

    Which one would be best to be put inside the terrarium?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sad_mad View Post
    Sorry for bumping, but I am kind of in a hurry- I want Phelsuma to have everything she needs ASAP.

    So- I found 3 options good for this terrarium:

    -Arcadia Shade Dweller 7% 8w
    -Arcadia Forest 6% 14w
    -Repti Glo 5.0 14w

    Which one would be best to be put inside the terrarium?
    My question is- will the Arcadia 7% (8W, 30cm) be enough? Terrarium is 30/40/60 cm. If not- which one should I use? Preferably to be put inside, coz the metal mesh at the top is only around 10 cm wide.
    So your enclosure is 60 cm tall. That's just 24 inches tall. How fine is the mesh on top: screen door type or wider metal mesh? I don't understand "the metal mesh at the top is only around 10 cm wide"? Please post a photo.

    I would not trust any Exo Terra bulb. Exo Terra bulbs are very poor! I don't think either Arcadia bulb you list would be strong enough -- at least when placed directly ON top of the screen top. Phelsuma m. grandis are NOT shade dwellers.

    Have you access to Zoo Med's ReptiSun T8 fluorescent tubes? Here's a pdf on distances and Ferguson Zones.

    Here's a link to UVB in general, not only for leopard geckos.
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    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
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    Could you upgrade this enclosure to a taller enclosure?
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Photo from the top.

    As you can see the ventilation is not too big, so I would prefer to put the UVB light inside the terrarium, thats why I aimed for a bit weaker bulbs.
    If you find it completely unacceptable I will try to remake the top but I would prefer to leave it as it is, as I have no idea how to work with glass.
    And I can't find any T8's from Repti Sun in Poland. :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Could you upgrade this enclosure to a taller enclosure?
    It's always possible, but of course I would prefer not to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sad_mad View Post
    IMG_20190321_145328.jpg

    Photo from the top.

    As you can see the ventilation is not too big, so I would prefer to put the UVB light inside the terrarium, thats why I aimed for a bit weaker bulbs.
    If you find it completely unacceptable I will try to remake the top but I would prefer to leave it as it is, as I have no idea how to work with glass.
    And I can't find any T8's from Repti Sun in Poland. :/
    ReptiSun lighting is made by Zoo Med in the USA. Can you find those?

    I don't have much experience providing UVB for Phelsuma. A gecko friend of mine breeds Phelsuma m. grandis. She uses ReptiSun 10.0 T8 fluorescent tubes. I have kept 3 Phelsuma barbouri under Zoo Med 5.0 ReptiSun tubes for nearly 15 years in 12 inch tall setups. Phelsuma barbouri require short setups.

    Can you join Facebook's Reptile Lighting group? Admin Dr. Fran Baines probably knows right away what you could do.

    Your Phelsuma m. grandis setup needs many plants or silk foliage to provide hiding places. 1.5 inch diameter hollow bamboo tubes, (PVC tubes), or Exo Terra Jungle Vines would be good for climbing.
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    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
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    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
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    Photo from the seller. As I wrote earlier I want to remove those bulbs. I also plan to add some additional plants and thick bamboo tubes, especially higher, to give Phelsuma more places to climb and hide, but first I need to know exactly how I need to place the lights.

    Zoo Med also doesn't seem to be available- I will join the group you recommended to find some solution.
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