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    Thanks Liz. The box he was in was cardboard but we had plastic lining on the bottom. He was pretty moist when I picked him up but his shed was definitely tough and needed massaging and In dressing.

    At the store tonight buying his rehab home and setting it up tomorrow. He’s in a big cardboard box right now with a his smaller moisture box inside of it. I made air holes and food and water. Hopefully he sleeps tonight without more stress
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallingspeaker View Post
    Thanks Liz. The box he was in was cardboard but we had plastic lining on the bottom. He was pretty moist when I picked him up but his shed was definitely tough and needed massaging and In dressing.

    At the store tonight buying his rehab home and setting it up tomorrow. He’s in a big cardboard box right now with a his smaller moisture box inside of it. I made air holes and food and water. Hopefully he sleeps tonight without more stress
    You're welcome, John!

    It's amazing that your wife made a large cardboard box home to help him shed and he went right in! It's as if you made a Welcome mat. You and your wife must be Gecko Whisperers. You are definitely thinking "outside the box".

    Were you able to remove his gloves and boots in one piece? Since he can now climb, he has a better future!!!

    Perhaps we can find online remedies for mouth rot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    You're welcome, John!

    It's amazing that your wife made a large cardboard box home to help him shed and he went right in! It's as if you made a Welcome mat. You and your wife must be Gecko Whisperers. You are definitely thinking "outside the box".

    Were you able to remove his gloves and boots in one piece? Since he can now climb, he has a better future!!!

    Perhaps we can find online remedies for mouth rot.
    He’s in a cardboard box tonight. It breaks my heart having to move him and stress him so much. Today my wife checked his shed and then had to take a 2 hour video call. Afterwards she checked again and found him bent and motionless. She dropped water on him and touched him and he didn’t move. She called me crying that he had passed away. I dropped what I was doing and drove home. Right before I got home she checked his body one more time and he was missing. He was playing dead with her (second time he’s fooled her).

    I tried using a wet Q-tip to try take it off but he kept running and jumping and wasting his energy. I ended up holding him. I was able to get all gloves and boots off. They rolled off like sleeves being turned inside out. He ended up playing dead in my fingers while I did all of it.

    His tail was black and I thought dead flesh but under his shed it was a little pinkish. After I took his Whole helmet off, his mouth looked clean. He opened it up wide and it was all cream and pink. So for now I’m not so sure he has an infection. It may have been dead skin getting grimy.

    He’s still skinny though. I will transfer him into terrarium tomorrow morning and pray he eats. It has been two days that he hasn’t eaten.

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    Ok he’s in the hospital terrarium. Drinking dew off the foliage. I am taking off today to monitor and hope he eats. 67B0441C-6BA2-4905-ACC7-338A004383B2.jpg
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    He ate a couple times. Maybe a few hundred licks total. But he had to eat upside down. He absolutely hates sphagnum moss. Won’t touch it. I’ll have to buy the soft carpet so he can walk on. After al, he basically grew up on concrete, tile, and human carpet since born.

    He really wants to be out of the glass terrarium. Hopefully I can get his weight back on and then we’ll have to decide on If he lives In our house free or in a bigger Vivarium
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallingspeaker View Post
    He ate a couple times. Maybe a few hundred licks total. But he had to eat upside down. He absolutely hates sphagnum moss. Won’t touch it. I’ll have to buy the soft carpet so he can walk on. After al, he basically grew up on concrete, tile, and human carpet since born.

    He really wants to be out of the glass terrarium. Hopefully I can get his weight back on and then we’ll have to decide on If he lives In our house free or in a bigger Vivarium
    Do you think Midori-Chan hatched in your condo? He's been through sooooooo much during the past few days.

    Before you remove the sphagnum moss, please give Midori-Chan several days to get used to it!!! Imagine that YOU are a day gecko. Sphagnum moss offers natural hiding places and shelters! Not only that, sphagnum moss offers superior opportunities to keep consistent humidity 24/7. All other hides are moist ------> dry within a couple hours.

    I really only know of 1 terra cotta hide (Amazon's OMEM hide) that's really tops for a humid hide.

    Method #6 -- Proactive Method
    Here's an excellent proactive approach! A LARGE terra cotta cave with a basin on top will keep ANY gecko's humidity higher 24/7. Since the humidification cave is made from clay, colors vary some. Use this cave + an 8 ounce water dish for your leopard gecko.

    July 2020: My leopard gecko loves her new LARGE terra cotta humid hide with the basin on top! Place that hide on a textured ceramic tile or on a piece of slate on the enclosure's warm end right next to the warm dry hide. Use sphagnum moss inside as a bedding. Fill the basin on top with water daily.

    My leo uses this terra cotta hide all the time! She alternates between her warm dry hide and this warm humid hide. This terra cotta humid hide retains a constant humidity level without any effort on my part. My leo's former humid hide was often dry, quite dry in fact.

    Terra cotta is porous. It is the only type hide that actually "breathes".
    Click: https://www.amazon.com/OMEM-Reptiles.../dp/B01M1NTI44

    Attachment 48541 Attachment 48970 Attachment 48703

    Sizes
    Small: 3.54'' x 2.76'' x 2.36''
    Medium: 4.72'' x 3.35'' x 2.95'' (Good size for Oedura castelnaui - Northern Velvet Geckos)
    Large OMEM hide (for ALL leopard geckos up to maybe 90 grams): 5.9'' x 4.72'' x 3.74''
    X-Large: At this time OMEM does not make an XL version of their terra cotta hide.

    The entry hole for the large OMEM terra cotta hide measures 2 inches wide x 1.5 inches high.


    For link 4 click: 7 Stuck Shed Humidity Box Assists for a gecko's toes, body, head, & eyes -- September 2020 (update includes OMEM terra cotta humidification hides!)
    My leopard gecko uses this OMEM hide all the time and so does one of my northern velvet geckos.
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    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Thanks for the suggestions. He ate about 4 separate times. Basked up near the lamp for a lot of the day. He tried multiple times to find a way out. It’s heartbreaking watching it, I’m sure he can see all of his old spots through the glass. He made a poop. I got a piece of bamboo that I will cut to various sizes for lots of bridges

    He sticks to the glass all day long with only a couple short stays on leaves. Maybe he missed climbing during the last few weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallingspeaker View Post
    Thanks for the suggestions. He ate about 4 separate times. Basked up near the lamp for a lot of the day. He tried multiple times to find a way out. Itís heartbreaking watching it, Iím sure he can see all of his old spots through the glass. He made a poop. I got a piece of bamboo that I will cut to various sizes for lots of bridges

    He sticks to the glass all day long with only a couple short stays on leaves. Maybe he missed climbing during the last few weeks.
    Here's an idea: leave the bamboo ends accessible so he can hide inside.

    My favorite part of your message is: "He sticks to the glass all day long with only a couple short stays on leaves."

    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 10-15-2020 at 03:58 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    I’m wondering how to get a UVB light for this horizontal 10gal tank. Since I have a 8.5” shallow dome, do I get another dome with a compact zoo med 10.0 and light half the tank?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallingspeaker View Post
    I’m wondering how to get a UVB light for this horizontal 10gal tank. Since I have a 8.5” shallow dome, do I get another dome with a compact zoo med 10.0 and light half the tank?
    1. What type finish does the inside of your 8.5 inch shallow dome have: white paint or metallic finish? The metallic finish is more reflective.
    2. Have you located Midori-Chan's incandescent bulb on one side of the 10 gallon, so your gecko has a thermal gradient?

    The UV Index needs to be just right. Otherwise UVB could damage your gecko's vision. Will you need Zoo Med Reptisun's mini-compact, regular compact, a 5.0 or a 10.0? I don't know how to set up UVB for your GDG within a 10 gallon.

    Please join Facebook's Reptile Lighting group. Admin Frances Baines may jump in and let you know how to do it.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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