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Old 07-28-2010, 03:25 PM
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Ok so in perpetration for my new leopard gecko/s I have set up my terrarium with everything needed for it. I want to see if the temperatures will stay where I need them around 85-90F. Base temperatures were 64 for the hydrometer and 68 for the thermometer. Well it’s the next day now and I think I am good for my hydrometer it reads 80 however the thermometer is only 69F still.

I have the exo terra 18x18x24 terrarium, with just over an inch of coco husk as substrate. The thermometer and hydrometer are exo brand. The UTH also is exo terra Desert Medium 16 watts.

I can’t figure out why the temperature isn’t changing or if the thermometer isn’t working properly. Is it possible that I still require a ceramic heat bulb?

Thank you for your help.
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Well I was able to find an old sunlight we had stored in a closet what was 250 watts. I had it on for about 10 mins before it gave out. I noticed a big difference in the temp. So I will be getting a ceramic heat bulb, I am just not use on the wattage I should get. I think 100 watts would be ok, what does everyone else use?
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You need a digital thermometer with a probe or a temp gun so that you can read the temperature of the actual surface as opposed to the ambient air temp. I seriously doubt that it's 69 in there unless you live somewhere really cold or you keep your AC amazingly low.
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You need a digital thermometer with a probe or a temp gun so that you can read the temperature of the actual surface as opposed to the ambient air temp. I seriously doubt that it's 69 in there unless you live somewhere really cold or you keep your AC amazingly low.
I have everything setup in the basement, however its an active room(not for storage), the house stays at about 77 all day and the basement is about 65. I will invest in the digital thermometer with a probe.
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wallymart or a place like it often times have digital thermometer for cheaper then the ones at pet stores so you might get one there. i know regularly thay are like $12 (thats temp and humidity) but some times you can fin them in clearance for a down right steal. just thought i would suggest that good luck
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I was able to get a digital one at the reptile show. It has a probe so its much better than what I had. Temp now reads 98 but that is touching the glass where the UTH is so the reptile carpit should be keeping it in the low 90's.
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Lets see if someone can help with this.....

I have gotten a 30lx12x12 and am using that currently, I had to get another UTH for this tank. However I chose to get a smaller size one. My new problem is that the temp with a probe touching the glass where the pad is read in the low 100s and when I place the probe on top of the reptile carpetit will read anywhere from high 80s to low/mid 90s.

Is this normal?

He seems to stay in his hide on top of the UTH and has 2 other hides, one in the middle and one on the other side of the tank.
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Lets see if someone can help with this.....

I have gotten a 30lx12x12 and am using that currently, I had to get another UTH for this tank. However I chose to get a smaller size one. My new problem is that the temp with a probe touching the glass where the pad is read in the low 100s and when I place the probe on top of the reptile carpetit will read anywhere from high 80s to low/mid 90s.

Is this normal?

He seems to stay in his hide on top of the UTH and has 2 other hides, one in the middle and one on the other side of the tank.
No one knows if this is normal?
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Well the heat is going to transfer easier through glass than it will through reptile carpet.
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What you are seeing is quite normal.

Your gecko has an isolated area of heat which it has decided to use.

If a proper thermal gradient does not exist the gecko will continue to be isolated to this area.

Because every situation is different, the temperature a vivarium is located within being the prime factor here, you will need to work at figuring out several things prior to determining how to correct the issue.

Map the vivariums internal temperatures, this will give you a picture of what your gecko is experiencing or has available to experience.

The areas that are too low in temperature need heat, it is that simple.

The more area you cover with heat sources that are controlled by t-stats or dimmers the less random the temperatures will be and the faster they will correct should the surrounding temperatures fall.

In the above paragraph I mentioned the plural of t-stats or dimmers, you may want to use several, each one monitoring and adjusting a particular area of the vivarium. Keep in mind that dimmers don't monitor or do any automatic adjusting thats up to you.

When a vivarium is located in an area where the temperatures are close to optimal the less complicated heating will need to be. A vivarium located in a room where the temperature is kept at 65degF is more of an issue to properly heat than one that is maintained at 75degF.

In almost every case I have delt with, more heat source coverage combined with several t-stats corrected the issue.

I've had people balk at paying for what was needed to keep the environment at the optimal temperatures, and to that I can only say "the choice is yours, this animal requires xx to xx temperatures to live and prosper, if you aren't willing to provide them the animal will not do as well as it could, and may die because of your choice". Please dont take that statement as an insult, I intend it to be rather blunt in cases where people are not willing to do what is required to properly care for their animals. In no way am I suggesting you are not willing, you are here asking for help so I assume you are willing. I make the statement here for those who read this that are not willing and so they will know what to expect.

The fact of the matter is that setting up a proper environment is the single most costly and difficult one time portion of keeping reptiles, the maintenance portion, and general care are fairly low cost aspects of the hobby which are parsed out over time. For example I keep Kirtland's Snakes, my initial setup costs were right around $275.00 for the first 10gal aquarium. The set-up is very basic, 3 ranco on/off t-stats, 3 sections of 4" wide flexwatt, an exo terra light unit and a couple low buck lights, the 10g aquarium, a water bowl, several hides, and a roll of butcher paper, (I would like to add a herpstat humidity control to the mix, but at this point have yet to do so). On average I spend more on lizard and gecko set-ups with their additional enclosure size requirements, and in many cases breeding being my goal additional incubators when I add a species. The snakes eat worms, only worms, and these are plentyful on my property, so for me food is nearly free except for collecting time.

The great thing about going all out from the start is that down the road, care is so much more simple, health issues are nearly always eliminated and with that expensive vet trips are all but a thing of the past. Your focus can now be on the wonderful critter you maintain, and not on worries about will it eat or be warm enough, or any of the other issues and problems that seem to come up on a daily basis with owning these exotic pets.

You seem to need more heat coverage, and should consider some form of heat control device.

Sorry for the overly long rant,
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