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    Since we are on the subject of Chicken feed, I want to ask if this is the Sunfresh Crumbles you recommend. I can get it from Tractor Supply but I might try the feed and seed store by my house when I go up there to ask about incoming shipments of flower and vegetable plants.

    Purina Layena Plus Omega-3 SunFresh Recipe Poultry Feed - For Life Out Here
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    Quote Originally Posted by JessJohnson87 View Post
    Since we are on the subject of Chicken feed, I want to ask if this is the Sunfresh Crumbles you recommend. I can get it from Tractor Supply but I might try the feed and seed store by my house when I go up there to ask about incoming shipments of flower and vegetable plants.

    Purina Layena Plus Omega-3 SunFresh Recipe Poultry Feed - For Life Out Here
    I will check with my friend and post to this thread, Jess.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    Exactly what I think. Actualy, I dont know why is so hard to change the mind regarding some practices in herpetoculture. Me included. For example, bioactive terrarium. It is a very propagated idea right now, everybody want to use it. Well, I know it comes with a lot of benefits for most of species, specially snakes and arachnids, but I dont know. I am inclined to make some terrariums in this way for testing, but I really dont accept very well the idea of a lizard or amphibians eating some insect that eat the lizards faeces or amphibian. Maybe is the idea of closing parasites cicles (perharps knowing most of the parasites are species-specific) specially because here in Brazil the only gecko species avaliable CB is leopard gecko and the ones I plan to keep WC. I am planning to try some bioactive terrariums as at least it will facilitate the individual adaptation. Lets see where it leads to...
    Here are the ingredients. Seems a varied kinds o bran with chemical correction. If you are curious for any translation, just let me know... 1.jpg2.jpg


    Oh. BTW, I live in a building, so, unfortunately, no way to growing my own dandelions



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    I really agree with you. I am amazed at how some generally reputable gecko breeders swear by wheat bran and wheat germ for their mealworms! I've seen it happen more than once. One person doubted the validity of the United States Department of Agriculture links. By using/recommending wheat bran, wheat germ, or oats as a mealworm bedding, it seems like geckos might be doomed.

    For sure, it is never too late to learn new and better ways of doing things. Is it possible for you to grow your own dandelions?

    The good news is that the chicken food you have available is diatomaceous earth-free! I'm glad that you are searching for other staples.

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      Paprika is an excellent dietary source of vitamin A. What I don't know is how much dietary vitamin A is safe. Would any excess be flushed out by the geckos' kidneys?

    Just a couple weeks ago I noticed that organic dandelion greens were sold at a nearby grocery store. On my next trip I bought some for my crickets. They are really bitter, but the crickets are eating them.
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    Hello ~

    Thanks for sharing. I'll get back with you later today. Have to finish one more post before I go to sleep. Then it's off to bed. Gotta get up "early" this morning for my folkdancing class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JessJohnson87 View Post
    Since we are on the subject of Chicken feed, I want to ask if this is the Sunfresh Crumbles you recommend. I can get it from Tractor Supply but I might try the feed and seed store by my house when I go up there to ask about incoming shipments of flower and vegetable plants.

    Purina Layena Plus Omega-3 SunFresh Recipe Poultry Feed - For Life Out Here
    It is not the one with omegas added, although I don't think that it would hurt. Make sure to repackage it in gallon bags and store in the freezer to discourage grain mites (devastating to a feeder colony) and improve freshness. Truthfully I am getting away from the grain feeds and using solely fresh foods. There are enough scraps of what the dragon and I eat (and also what he DOESN'T eat) to feed all our colonies. There has been no change in growth or production and this way they are properly hydrated all the time (super important for our desert critters that have evolved to receive most of their moisture from the food they eat).
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    Thanks! I was going to try to find a small bag of it and try it out, easier said than done. I usually throw some of the beardie pellets in there and feed mostly fresh fruits and veggie's. I got my spring seed planting of some new greens to try with them done this weekend so I'll hopefully have some arugula, mustard and turnip greens by the summer.

    Back on the original OP's question. I noticed that the chicken feed has BT (Bacillus thuringiensis) in it, which is a bacteria that kills caterpillars and one I was considering for dealing with my cabbage worm problem. So I'm not sure how this will affect your feeders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JessJohnson87 View Post
    Back on the original OP's question. I noticed that the chicken feed has BT (Bacillus thuringiensis) in it, which is a bacteria that kills caterpillars and one I was considering for dealing with my cabbage worm problem. So I'm not sure how this will affect your feeders.
    Thanks you for highlighting this Jess. Actually, there says that inside the pool of genes used in the transgenic ingredients, possibly are those from this species and/or the other ones. I do not believe this will be a problem for the geckos, only for the insects, so I think I will try this food only in one cricket box and, if it may prove ok, I shall use it in the others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gekkotan View Post
    ......

    Here are the ingredients. Seems a varied kinds o bran with chemical correction. If you are curious for any translation, just let me know... 1.jpg 2.jpg

    ......
    Do you see any problematic ingredients on this list?
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gekkotan View Post
    Exactly what I think. Actualy, I dont know why is so hard to change the mind regarding some practices in herpetoculture. Me included. For example, bioactive terrarium. It is a very propagated idea right now, everybody want to use it. Well, I know it comes with a lot of benefits for most of species, specially snakes and arachnids, but I dont know. I am inclined to make some terrariums in this way for testing, but I really dont accept very well the idea of a lizard or amphibians eating some insect that eat the lizards faeces or amphibian. Maybe is the idea of closing parasites cicles (perharps knowing most of the parasites are species-specific) specially because here in Brazil the only gecko species avaliable CB is leopard gecko and the ones I plan to keep WC. I am planning to try some bioactive terrariums as at least it will facilitate the individual adaptation. Lets see where it leads to...

    ......
    Bioactive vivariums are very popular. From what I've heard, they seem to work. They can also be beautiful.

    Do you feel that our reluctance to try something different might stem from lack of confidence? When we are doing something that "mostly" works for us, change seems harder. I mean, change might improve some situation, but there is fear of going backwards.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
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    Don't get me started on bio-active vivariums, I'm addicted now...
    "Attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference." ~ Winston Churchill

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    B. dubia, T. molitor, M. quinquemaculata
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