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    Good morning, Gekkotan......

    What time is it in Brazil? In Oregon it's 2 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
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    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    "Do you see any problematic ingredients on this list?"
    Actually no, just expected to see some different ingredient than the ones we discussed before

    "Bioactive vivariums are very popular. From what I've heard, they seem to work. They can also be beautiful.

    Do you feel that our reluctance to try something different might stem from lack of confidence? When we are doing something that "mostly" works for us, change seems harder. I mean, change might improve some situation, but there is fear of going backwards."
    Absoutely. Would never argue against its beauty. I could try it anytime with any new species I get, specially the ones WC. The kind of clean terrarium I kept my leopards over 10 years let me with fear of change for sure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Good morning, Gekkotan......

    What time is it in Brazil? In Oregon it's 2 AM.
    07:28 now
    Good morning for you too =)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gekkotan View Post
    "Do you see any problematic ingredients on this list?"
    Actually no, just expected to see some different ingredient than the ones we discussed before


    "Bioactive vivariums are very popular. From what I've heard, they seem to work. They can also be beautiful.

    Do you feel that our reluctance to try something different might stem from lack of confidence? When we are doing something that "mostly" works for us, change seems harder. I mean, change might improve some situation, but there is fear of going backwards."

    Absoutely. Would never argue against its beauty. I could try it anytime with any new species I get, specially the ones WC. The kind of clean terrarium I kept my leopards over 10 years let me with fear of change for sure!
    That's good. I don't know Portuguese!

    Sometimes it is good to branch out, to take a leap! But I understand just where you've been.

    Here's a little trick. Is there a button, a quote button, to the right of your Reply With Quote button? If you want to quote more than one post at a time in your post, click that button on each separate post. Then click Reply to Thread. Then you'll see each separate post in a separate box and you could reply between the boxes. Maybe you already know that.

    I'm not very good with technology, but I like to share what I think I know.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 02-24-2016 at 07:13 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
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    Yeah. I will make a test. Lets see how it goes...
    Thanks for the hint

    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    That's good. I don't know Portuguese!

    Sometimes it is good to branch out, to take a leap! But I understand just where you've been.

    Here's a little trick. Is there a button, a quote button, to the right of your Reply With Quote button? If you want to quote more than one post at a time in your post, click that button on each separate post. Then click Reply to Thread. Then you'll see each separate post in a separate box and you could reply between the boxes. Maybe you already know that.

    I'm not very good with technology, but I like to share what I think I know.
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    Here you will find some recent comments by Hilde on bioactive substrates.

    Scroll to post 7 on Jewel Orchids: http://www.geckosunlimited.com/commu...ry-2015-a.html
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
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    Just a update: since I starting feed the crickets with the new poultry food, almost 2 weeks ago, I can not perceive any harm at all, so it seems to be safe for use. One negative point that I think it has otherwise, is that they apear to be eating less. I put a small portion of food and didnt need to refill it. As expected I think they dont grow up as fast as the ones still fed with cat food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gekkotan View Post
    Just a update: since I starting feed the crickets with the new poultry food, almost 2 weeks ago, I can not perceive any harm at all, so it seems to be safe for use. One negative point that I think it has otherwise, is that they apear to be eating less. I put a small portion of food and didnt need to refill it. As expected I think they dont grow up as fast as the ones still fed with cat food.
    Good to know, Gekkotan. Thanks for your update.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
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    Another update: After a full month using the new food, it seems safe for use, but I noticed the growth was really smaller than the control. I have heard that crickets from the genus Gryllus would need more protein, so, may be occurring a high cannibalism here. As I have 3 crickets boxes, I was thinking in raise them initially with cat food and then, once the crickets reach a size which I could use for feeding the geckos, I start using the chicken food in only one box. If I need to, I tranfer some individuals to the "gut load box". I think this may be the very best option to solve these requirements. As I also keep some arachnids, may be an option to offer them a food which I trust and, raise the crickets fast and garantee a fast reproduction rate. what would be your toughts about it? ps. have yet to test the food with Tenebrio and roaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gekkotan View Post
    Another update: After a full month using the new food, it seems safe for use, but I noticed the growth was really smaller than the control. I have heard that crickets from the genus Gryllus would need more protein, so, may be occurring a high cannibalism here. As I have 3 crickets boxes, I was thinking in raise them initially with cat food and then, once the crickets reach a size which I could use for feeding the geckos, I start using the chicken food in only one box. If I need to, I tranfer some individuals to the "gut load box". I think this may be the very best option to solve these requirements. As I also keep some arachnids, may be an option to offer them a food which I trust and, raise the crickets fast and garantee a fast reproduction rate. what would be your toughts about it? ps. have yet to test the food with Tenebrio and roaches.
    I've not heard that crickets from one genus need more protein than other genuses.

    I'm lucky to get the gentle brown crickets, Acheta domesticus. When I switched my Acheta domesticus over from Albers All Purpose Poultry Feed to Zoo Med's Natural Adult Bearded Dragon Food, it seems like my crickets are growing more slowly too. I'm not totally sure. It will take more time for me to decide.

    Let us know how your plans go.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 04-12-2016 at 02:37 PM. Reason: typo
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
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