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    I saw your post and I posted another post. Can you take a look at my questions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reptilesunleashed View Post
    Thanks, since I have 1 leo, I think it is more reasonable to not give them a heat source because they still can breed under 80- 90 degrees but not as much so I don't think I will use a heat source. Is 20 female dubia and 10 male a good ratio? There is a starter colony on ebay. How often should you completely change the substrate and how long will this ProGutload last you ? The beetles can be kept on steel cut too right? So since they can get moisture from their juicy fruits and veggies, do they need the moisture from the paper towels?
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    • That EBay starter colony will work.
    • Completely change the mealworm substrate every 3-6 months. Take the culture outside to blow off the frass more frequently.
    • I have no idea how long 1 pound of ProGutload will last. : It's better to run out of the food, than to feed a diet that's past it's expiration date.
    • The beetles can be kept on steel cut oats.
    • You'll also be leaving a lid of ProGutload in the dubia container.
    • I find providing moisture via paper towels the easiest.
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    I get it now, so pro gutload on one side, and some moisturized paper towels on the other for dubia roaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reptilesunleashed View Post
    I get it now, so pro gutload on one side, and some moisturized paper towels on the other for dubia roaches.
    Not quite. On the link below scroll to the part on dubia.

    Did you read this link -- at least the first part? Is there something I'm missing? There are specific suggestions right there on what to do with the egg cartons, paper towels, dry diet (in a dish) covered by a section of egg carton. There is too much info to copy and paste on a post. That's what links are for.

    Restaurants that serve lots of breakfasts might save empty egg flats for you.
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    Oh, so some ProGutload on one side, fruit and veggies on the other, and moisturized but fully sqeezed out paper towels on top of the egg flats? I heard Walmart’s deli/ bakery section will happily give out free egg flats and as many as you want. Can you send me some pics of what the setup should look like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reptilesunleashed View Post
    Oh, so some ProGutload on one side, fruit and veggies on the other, and moisturized but fully sqeezed out paper towels on top of the egg flats? I heard Walmart’s deli/ bakery section will happily give out free egg flats and as many as you want. Can you send me some pics of what the setup should look like?
    That's good news!

    I keep the roach dry diet in a large plastic lid in one corner of their 10 gallon.

    Sorry, I don't have a cell phone or a digital camera.

    The details are extremely clear. There are no extra words,
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    I find that apples dry out pretty quick. Is there a way to make them more moisturized( like wash them or something?)? Or should I just use oranges or something more juicy? How often should I replace the egg flats and clean the cage ? Can I clean the egg flats somehow ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by reptilesunleashed View Post
    I find that apples dry out pretty quick. Is there a way to make them more moisturized( like wash them or something?)? Or should I just use oranges or something more juicy? How often should I replace the egg flats and clean the cage ? Can I clean the egg flats somehow ?
    Oranges are on the list I shared on this thread. Please scroll back to post 3. They are in the "Good" category along with apples.

    Egg flats can last for several months. Clean the roach cage every several months. Egg flats cannot be cleaned! Get free egg flats from WalMart like you mentioned.
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    You can use cardboard egg cartons as well, if your family or friends buy those instead of styrofoam cartons.

    Roaches like shredded carrots too, so if you ever buy those baby carrots, shred one or two of them, and your roaches will eat those. I also put a couple of baby carrots in my mealworm container for moisture, and replace every couple of days.
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    I feel like the mealworms and dubia are not eating the food because I don't see them eating it. How many slices of fruit should I put in their container. The mealworm container is aro,und 13ish qts, and the dubia roach tub is 20 gallons. When I put the fruit in they don't go to it or anything, especially the mealworms. How do I get them to eat so they are nice and gutloaded? Or am I just not seeing them eat?

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