[yaya543]

I've been reading alot of the posts and i have a ? if I use this then I don't have to dust with d3 right because it allready has it in it?

Zeigler Cricket Hi-Cal Monster Diet Provides a Balanced Meal for Your Pet

[Elizabeth Freer]

Originally Posted by yaya543

I've been reading alot of the posts and i have a ? if I use this then I don't have to dust with d3 right because it allready has it in it?

Zeigler Cricket Hi-Cal Monster Diet Provides a Balanced Meal for Your Pet

What are the amounts of D3, calcium, vitamin A, and phosphorus in the Monster Cricket Diet? Could not find an ingredient list with Big Apple.

The huge thing is that this is fed to the crickets, not directly to the geckos. The D3 powder which is lightly dusted onto the crickets right before feeding is a better way to get the supplement directly into your gecko's gut!

Who is to say how much of whatever is left after the cricket digests it?

All input welcome.......

[cricket4u]

Originally Posted by yaya543

I've been reading alot of the posts and i have a ? if I use this then I don't have to dust with d3 right because it allready has it in it?

Zeigler Cricket Hi-Cal Monster Diet Provides a Balanced Meal for Your Pet

I would not add D3 via dusting, it would most likely exceed the amount desired. I have noticed a good portion of feeder food companies do not provide the D3 amount, however they at least provide phosphorus amount. It's a proven method for crickets if a balanced product is used. It is not a recommended method for someone at home mixing ingredients without the knowledge of a nutritionist.

I have never used this product, but I recall Zeigler Bros was one of the companies which successfully achieved the ratio of 1:1- 2:1 within 24 hours according to the Nutrition Advisory Group. This product should only be used for no more than 24-48 hours prior to feeding. If your not using UVB, at least dust other insects being fed lightly with calcium w/d3 and rotate between feeders.

[yaya543]

Originally Posted by cricket4u

I would not add D3 via dusting, it would most likely exceed the amount desired. I have noticed a good portion of feeder food companies do not provide the D3 amount, however they at least provide phosphorus amount. It's a proven method for crickets if a balanced product is used. It is not a recommended method for someone at home mixing ingredients without the knowledge of a nutritionist.

I have never used this product, but I recall Zeigler Bros was one of the companies which successfully achieved the ratio of 1:1- 2:1 within 24 hours according to the Nutrition Advisory Group. This product should only be used for no more than 24-48 hours prior to feeding. If your not using UVB, at least dust other insects being fed lightly with calcium w/d3 and rotate between feeders.

oh, I thought it was an everyday food. kind of expensive to only use right before feeding only, lol how about vitamins, do I have to put some on top?

[cricket4u]

Originally Posted by yaya543

oh, I thought it was an everyday food. kind of expensive to only use right before feeding only, lol how about vitamins, do I have to put some on top?

Well, like the saying goes...you get what you pay for I personally would not add any multivitamin supplement to crickets fed this diet. I am not being smart, but that is why it's a complete diet. I would be concerned the vitamins for example Vit A can possibly exceed the amount within safe limits. Just keep in mind variety of insects is important as well. You can also take a look above in this section. There is gutload information that is provided by one of the members.

[yaya543]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer

What are the amounts of D3, calcium, vitamin A, and phosphorus in the Monster Cricket Diet? Could not find an ingredient list with Big Apple.

The huge thing is that this is fed to the crickets, not directly to the geckos. The D3 powder which is lightly dusted onto the crickets right before feeding is a better way to get the supplement directly into your gecko's gut!

Who is to say how much of whatever is left after the cricket digests it?

All input welcome.......

you know what Mrs. Freer. I don't think nocturnal lizards need d3 thru supplements. I've been reading how alot of people don't use it and they geckos never end up with mbd. this guy still don't use it and look at there caresheet. Calcium Powder... ain't that crazy,lol

[Elizabeth Freer]

Originally Posted by cricket4u

Well, like the saying goes...you get what you pay for I personally would not add any multivitamin supplement to crickets fed this diet. I am not being smart, but that is why it's a complete diet. I would be concerned the vitamins for example Vit A can possibly exceed the amount within safe limits. Just keep in mind variety of insects is important as well. You can also take a look above in this section. There is gutload information that is provided by one of the members.

cricket4u ~

Before I would use such, I would find out the amounts of vitamins, minerals, et cetera, beyond the 6 ingredients listed on the container under Guaranteed Aanlysis. Perhaps MonsterDiets would have such. Their toll-free phone number is 800-841-6800 (8-5, M-F, Eastern time).

I am looking at the 14 oz can I have of Hi-Cal Cricket Monster Diet. Do you think the "Hi-Cal" stands for Hi-Calorie or for Hi-Calcium? The Vitamin A there is listed as Vitamin A Acetate. Vitamin A in the form of Beta Carotene is the form recommended for day geckos.

[cricket4u]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer

cricket4u ~

Before I would use such, I would find out the amounts of vitamins, minerals, et cetera, beyond the 6 ingredients listed on the container under Guaranteed Aanlysis. Perhaps MonsterDiets would have such. Their toll-free phone number is 800-841-6800 (8-5, M-F, Eastern time).

I am looking at the 14 oz can I have of Hi-Cal Cricket Monster Diet. Do you think the "Hi-Cal" stands for Hi-Calorie or for Hi-Calcium? The Vitamin A there is listed as Vitamin A Acetate. Vitamin A in the form of Beta Carotene is the form recommended for day geckos.

Actually all the commercial foods use VitA in that form. As a complete diet it should be within safe limits. You can call and then compare it to the MRP. Hi-cal stands for High Calcium. This is another product which does not need dusting. A vet had recommended it in the past.
T-Rex Sandfire Super Foods Cricket Insect Loader 50g - Super Pets Direct
http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog/...-cricket-diet/

[cricket4u]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer

cricket4u ~

Before I would use such, I would find out the amounts of vitamins, minerals, et cetera, beyond the 6 ingredients listed on the container under Guaranteed Aanlysis. Perhaps MonsterDiets would have such. Their toll-free phone number is 800-841-6800 (8-5, M-F, Eastern time).

I am looking at the 14 oz can I have of Hi-Cal Cricket Monster Diet. Do you think the "Hi-Cal" stands for Hi-Calorie or for Hi-Calcium? The Vitamin A there is listed as Vitamin A Acetate. Vitamin A in the form of Beta Carotene is the form recommended for day geckos.

I added a link to a website that sells the other product. Did you mean that you already had the can in front of you? I have been a bit overwhelmed lately and my focus is a bit off

[Elizabeth Freer]

Originally Posted by cricket4u

I added a link to a website that sells the other product. Did you mean that you already had the can in front of you? I have been a bit overwhelmed lately and my focus is a bit off

Yes, I have the can right in front of me. (I've been staring at it for days now .) I somehow inherited it from a friend of mine. Did get an email from the company which supposedly lists all ingredients, but I have not had the time to view it.