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Well their every were right now and when I saw them in person I just couldn't say no. these guys are so cute, active and funny I'm really pleased I bought them.

the only care sheet i found for them was kind of lacking info so if anyone could help me out I would really appreciate it.

-there desert dwellers right so upper 80s? hot and cool spot temps? Under tank heater or basking light or both?

-again desert dwellers but Humidity? water dish? misting ______ times a weeks?

-Feeding schedule? times a week/ prey items each time?

Anything else I'm missing?

And her are my two cuties











Also these photos are straight out of the deli cup I have them on paper towel and sprayed them down cause being shipped to the show, poked at all day and them me driving me all the way home I thought I needed to get them good and hydrated

Thanks for looking and hopefully answering some of the question I have

-Matt

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Nice buys dude. I had a pair of these about 6 years ago. They are indeed a desert species, upto 90f in the day. usual hot cold side regime. They are also excellent burrowers. If you could add several inches of sand to their tank and get it to set hard with Lamp and UTH's they will produce little burrows to live in. Excavator clay might also be good (but ive not used it personally).

Feed every other day as many crickets/small mealworms as they will eat, Dusting once maybe twice weekly if they are WC imports.They are little bulldogs and will gladly shake a worm around in their mouth. My female also used to attack my knuckles when doing maintainence.

I think heat cable would work really well with this species, since they burrow away from the heat during the day a UTH might not work so well, but a few rows of heat cable a couple of inches below the sand would give the natural warming of the upper layers and a progression below.

you dont need to mist that often. they would experience the morning dew in the desert and a shallow water bowl will give a little relative humidty. Decorations can be rocks/bark/light coloured grasses, Air plants would give a nice touch.

Enjoy they are a wonderful species i wish i still owned..

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Wow great info, thank you very very much. I was a little worried cause I saw a few threads similar to mine that were left unanswered, and that you for the prompt response too. I yeasterday at a show I ended up with 2 awsome colored female cave geckos, a red gargoyle gecko, a beautiful molted spear point leaf tail, and then I bought these guys. They were an impulse buy and only 12$ a peace and now after getting them home I'm really pumped I got them. there both pretty young and unsexed so I'll have to watch them to make sure they don't turn out to be 2 males.

one more question when you say an UTH would be less effective then a few rows of heat cable would work better do you mean bury the heat cable in the sand or put it under the tank like a UTH?

thanks again
-Matt

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if you could get 6-8 inches of sand in a long glass tank (Playpit sand)

add heat cable 1 inch under the surface for 2/3 of the tank, a large heatmat on max under the tank (outside) and a large spot bulb or two over the tank, you could bake the damp fresh sand hard in about a week or so i reckon. You could also put a small pipe in the back left corner of the tank bend it down thru the sand to the bottom on the cold side and occasionally put a small amount of water down it to moisten the lower level on the cold side to give them a moist burrow.. once its set nice and hard, add a light dusting of sand on top (5mm maybe) and a few rocks/bark curls etc gives a great natural effect.

you can them remove the heatpad from under the tank and lower the wattage of the overhead bulb just to light the tank.

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something like my attachment. excuse the crudeness.

Key: Red is heat tape/cable
Blue: water feed pipe

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I'm beside myself right now, again I didn't expected to get to much out of this thread and I ended up getting probably some of the best care info I've received for any of the stuff I keep. Thanks a million! I know more about some then others but if you need any help with the species listed in my signature just let me know and I have a wildlife control company so if you have any critters brake in I'll let you in on some trapper secrets that you won't find in any books

thanks again
-Matt

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No worries, You caught me on a good day, i dont usually post more lurk and read. good luck with them gecko;s and more questions just come back to this thread..

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congrats on your new babies! Frog eyes are awesome! I bought a pair about a year ago and love them. They're very attentive to my moving around the gecko room, and are total pigs. I feed mine mealworms (they like the beetles too!) wax worms, dubia roaches, and sometimes my male will eat crickets but my female isn't interested in them. They are great at burrowing, and have very different personalities. My male is CB but really timid even at feeding time, but my female is LTC and a monster eater (once jumped 4" straight up to steal a worm from my tweezers!). I use a UVB spotlight for heat on the one side of the tank when it's colder and have a heating pad under that half of the tank all the time. They thermo-regulate themselves with that. My temps are 100*f in the basking area during the day, with a "cool side" at 80-85*F. I used regular playsand for the substrate, though i want to try a clay/sand mixture soon to see if it helps them burrow. Right now if they burrow after I water the sand dries and hardens, but after a few days it dries out and caves in. I only water them by misting them with a spray bottle once a week. I've heard they do not drink standing water and usually bury the dishes in sand when burrowing anyway. Mine do not like water, but after a few minutes will lap up a tiny bit of water from the rocks. I only spray the water on the plants that need it and on the back wall so it's not saturating the substrate or raising the humidity too much. My substrate is 4" deep with 3 large rock slabs securely placed in the middle. I also have 2 cacti and 1 succulent in with them. They leave them alone except for burrowing around them, so while it isn't as "pretty" it's best to put the plants in in pots to protect them from being knocked over and dug up. Here's a picture of their tank with the female basking on the rock slabs (sorry it's crummy and small i'm not at my home computer!) They're a blast, totally worth the 12 bucks!

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Thank you thank you, sometimes it's really hard to get info on less kept species and I'm really lucking out here. Their total charmers, last night and today I lost a lot of cleaning time cause I found myself memorized by what ferocious feeders they are and how they interact with each other. one will be totaly focused on a cricket and the other will come up and lick him on the check which totally catches him off guard and vise verse it's nothing short of adorable. a lot of the time i get so caught up in my more exotic pricey species that I totally over look the inexpensive one when I'm shopping around for new stuff.
thanks again
-Matt

P.S. that huge cage I'm making is still in the works it's just going slow. Don't worry I haven't given up on it

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YouTube - Frog eyed terrors

-Matt