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    Smile #136---Important Links


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    Click & scroll to post 4 (blondebrowncoat on Inkbird model thermostats):
    • GU's blondebrown coat states: "I love it! It keeps very true temps, has a max/min customizable threshold, day and night temp settings, and an alarm if temps get out of whack."
    • Click: Noob Inherited A Leo

    /\ April 2018: Now you can buy a separate additional probe so the Inkbird can be used to monitor 2 separate heat mats.

    Amazon: digital thermostats from $20 (Apollo) (Andy Hauser)

    Click: GeckoWeb? - Home

    Click: 10 Fascinating Facts About Crickets

    Click: NEHERP - Vivarium Construction 101 - The most complete vivarium building articles online!

    Click: Jonathan Klarsfeld DVM's Giant Day Gecko Care Sheet


    Captured -- February 2018
    Click: https://dubiaroachdepot.com/guidance...feeder-insects

    UVB for AFTs......Pon (with Zux's feedback) -- December 2017
    Click & scroll to post UVB Light For Fat Tails- How long should it be on a day?

    Good Substrate Mix for AFTs & Plants, & Bug Stuff......ludwig.donn (Zux's feedback on post 2) -- July 2017
    Click: Is this a good substrate mix for an african fat tails and plants, also bug stuff

    Another thread's vet suggests an Arcadia 2.4 UVB 8 watt bulb for a 23 x 11 x 10 inch tank + powdered D3 @ 1 feeding per month as back up......LilBobbyD -- October 2017
    Click & scroll to UVB lighting posts 1, 19, & 20: UVB and D3 Suppliments

    Custom Builds for leos Cecil & Cleo......Seth9999 -- September 2017 (Leo Cecil's 48 x 20 x 12 inch high enclosure)
    Click & scroll to posts 42, 43 (Zux), 44, 45: Questions??

    Leo Ziggy's Bioactive Enclosure......Jessica Johnson -- August 2017
    Click: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1S2...ature=youtu.be

    Phelsuma grandis Freddy & keeper Mariska (Netherlands) Problem began June 2016: Male bit tail off after "minor" injury -- continues to bite stump -- won't let wound heal! -- July -- 2017
    Click: HELP: Phelsuma keeps biting himself!

    Phelsuma keeper from Israel: Nika ----> female Phelsuma recovers from sudden death of her cagemate with total redo of enclosure -- July 2017
    Click: Phelsuma very weak and refuses to eat after laying infertile egg - please help (((
    • Nika shares cricket ideas as well!

    DubiaRoaches.com Feeder Chart combined with Mark Finke's Feeder Chart -- July 2017
    Click: The Most Complete Feeder Insect Nutrition Chart | The Reptile Report

    Eco Earth coco fiber impaction thread -- July 2017
    Click: URGENT Leo impacted by Eco earth

    How I Breed Mealworms!......PoppyDear -- June 2017
    Click: How I Breed Mealworms!

    Zoo Med Lighting Chart -- June 2017
    Click: https://zoomed.com/wp-content/upload...Lamp-Chart.pdf

    Post 3 by PoppyDear -- June 2017
    Click: Trying to get gecko off hand feeding

    Treating Thermal Burns in Reptiles -- shared by PoppyDear -- April 2017
    Click: https://savethereptiles.wordpress.co...s-in-reptiles/

    Mark Finke, PhD + DubiaRoaches.com Feeder Chart combo -- March 2017
    Click: The Most Complete Feeder Insect Nutrition Chart | The Reptile Report

    Automated Cricket Dispenser......Jeff92 (Jean-François) -- 13 May 2016
    Click: Gecko Feeder - Automated Cricket dispenser

    Zoo Med Excavator Clay Custom Build......swisswiss (Jeff) -- 27 Jan 2016
    Click: Swisswiss's terrarium

    Self Cleaning Dubia Roach Set Up......kholtme (Kyle Holtmeyer) -- 31 August 2015
    Click: Self cleaning Dubia roach set up

    Custom Hexagon top......booth2010 -- March 2015 (On E's Crestie Summary)
    Click: Screen cover for Hexagon tank

    A link shared by Hilde -- April 2014
    Click: http://www.merckvetmanual.com/manage...tiles#v3321842

    Pinworms......matt0101 -- 9 Sept 2013 (PoppyDear)
    Click: Pinworms

    Cleaning Reptile Cages......cricket4u (M. Wiseman DVM) -- March 2012
    Click: Cleaning Reptile Cages

    Feeder Roaches: Care and Breeding......Ozymandias -- February 2011
    Click: Feeder Roaches: Care and Breeding
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 07-17-2018 at 07:50 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside a vivarium <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Smile #137---EarthPro-A (multivitamin/multi-mineral) & EarthPro Calcium + Magnesium

    Available from LightYourReptiles.com in the USA and from Swell Reptiles in the UK.

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    August 2017 comments from Zux (Shane) regarding Arcadia EarthPro's-A multivitamins/multimineral:

    • "Arcadia EarthPro's-A multivitamin/multi-mineral video illustrates that much of the thinking behind liberal provision of vitamins and minerals in a natural manner is totally safe and something I feel very strongly is the future of supplementation in captivity.

      "Relating back to our discussion surrounding Vitamin A provision and my thoughts surrounding liberal provision of 'the building blocks' of such in the form of carotenoids: The science team behind the product is confident that, in mimicking wild-like provision, any captive reptile irrespective of their requirements for such, can safely self-produce all they would need at any given time."


    August 2017 comments from Zux (Shane) regarding Arcadia EarthPro's Calcium-Pro Magnesium supplement:

    • "The second video explains some of magnesium's role and why it so important to include magnesium along with calcium!

      "What is not covered sufficiently, and conveniently relates to our discussion regarding water treatments, is that Mg is found in great quantities in the majority of wild water supplies (among other sources) and something wild reptiles would all have access to in volume. This is a large part of why (along with the obvious lack of synthetic D3) the abundance of Ca in those wild diets never results in issues related to oversupply so often seen or feared in captivity.

      "Also of note here is how such provision can help alleviate any concern surrounding liberal provision of Ca in the diet or even within enclosures."

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    Arcadia EarthPro's-A's multivitamin/multi-mineral

    EarthPro-A is a potent dietary supplement that will help supply all the essential vitamins and minerals that a captive exotic needs in a safe and natural way.

    Potent carotenoids and bee pollen are used to cater safely for vitamin A and to aid digestion and growth. The product contains NO synthetics that can be easily over or under dosed. Importation from England has been approved by the FDA exclusively for LightYourReptiles.com!

    We are excited to be able to offer such a high quality supplement. Especially since it contains bee pollen, a supplement that is naturally occurring in the diet of most reptiles and many amphibians.

    Herbivorous reptiles ingest pollen in the plants and flowers they eat. Insectivorous and carnivorous get it either gut loaded in the prey items they eat or on the prey's bodies.

    Bee pollen naturally has the following nutrients:
    • Vitamins: Provitamin A, B-1 Thiamin, B-2 Riboflavin, B-3 Niacin, B-5, B-6 Pyridoxine, B-12 (cyanocobalamine), Pantothenic acid, Vitamin C, F, Vitamin D, Vitamin E, Vitamin H, Vitamin K, Vitamin PP, Folic Acid, Choline, Inositol, Rutin.
    • Minerals: Calcium, Phosphorus, Potassium, Iron, Copper, Iodine, Zinc, Sulfur, Sodium, Chlorine, Magnesium, Manganese, Molybdenum, Selenium, Boron, Silica, and Titanium.
    • Other: Amino Acid, Carbohydrates, Fatty Acids, Enzymes & Co-Enzyimes, Fats.
    • Bee Pollen contains at least 22 amino acids, 18 vitamins, 25 minerals, 59 trace elements, 11 enzymes or co-enzymes, 14 fatty acids, 11 carbohydrates and approximately 25 % protein. Bee pollen is extremely rich in carotenes, which are metabolic precursors of vitamin A. It is also high In B complex and vitamins C, D, E and Lecithin.

    Arcadia EarthPro's-A also contains mineral clay, a natural source of minerals along with protein powder for added vitality.

    Try Arcadia EarthPro's-A today and you will be hooked. We recommend dusting 2 to 4 times a week with EarthPro-A.

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    Arcadia EarthPro's CalciumPro Magnesium
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 09-19-2018 at 04:29 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside a vivarium <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Smile #138---More Info -- Feb 2017

    Click: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2roGuLCEVQ

    JTB's link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leADmIhe6QI
    • Consider buying the book mentioned on this video: Reptile & Amphibian Nutrition...by John Courteney-Smith (sp?). I'm not familiar with it.

    You're searching for a vitamin A acetate (retinol) source. That's pre-formed vitamin A. Vitamin A acetate helps a lizard metabolize the beta carotene (pro-formed vitamin A) in it's diet. Not the other way around.
    • Consider dusting crickets and bugs with the finely ground powder of the dry diet to provide vitamin A acetate.
    • Scroll through my Leo Guidelines for a post(s) by Ivan Alfonso, DVM, about vitamin A and the research. They are there.
    • Click: Gecko Time: Vitamin A Deficiency

    Use Nutrobal instead of Exo Terra's multivitamin. Nutrobal is an excellent! It contains 46% precipitated calcium carbonate (not oyster shell calcium)! Give your new leo a better chance with Nutrobal!

    The cricket/dubia diet I use right now is finely ground Zoo Med's Natural Adult Bearded Dragon Food. It's a great blend of ingredients. Compare those ingredients to the Exo Terra food you mention. Occasionally I also use Cricket Crack and 100% alfalfa meal.

    • Feeders: Feed the highest quality dry diet 24/7 that you can afford to cover the basics.
    • Supplement that dry diet with high calcium, low phosphorus, veggies (collards, dandelion flowers/greens, mustard, & turnip) greens.
    • A 24/7 dry diet should not include wheat germ or wheat bran. Wheat germ and wheat bran are way too high in phosphorus!
    • For juvie and sub-adult leos, males, and non-breeding female leos my schedule suggests adequate calcium "dosages".
    • Excess calcium in the digestive tract can hinder absorption of vitamins A and D.
    • "D3 serves the function of breaking down calcium. While this makes it an essential nutrient, it also means that too much D3 breaks down ALL the calcium, and results in just as severe a calcium deficiency as if your gecko wasn't being given any supplements.
      You should not dust with D3 more than about once per week. [Samurai Drifter -- Jan 2017]"
    • TetraMin Fish Flakes contain 47% protein! In 1988 TetraMin Fish Flakes were recommended to me as a cricket diet by a chameleon breeder who also suggested kitten, cat, puppy, dog food samples pet stores give out. All bad news, I believe.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 07-11-2017 at 09:08 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside a vivarium <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Smile #139---Silvadene Cream 1%......Yossarian -- April 2017

    "SILVADENE Cream 1% is a soft, white, water-miscible cream containing the antimicrobial agent silver sulfadiazine in micronized form.

    "Each gram of SILVADENE Cream 1% contains 10 mg of micronized silver sulfadiazine. The cream vehicle consists of white petrolatum, stearyl alcohol, isopropyl myristate, sorbitan monooleate, polyoxyl 40 stearate, propylene glycol, and water, with methylparaben 0.3% as a preservative. Silvadene cream spreads easily and can be washed off readily with water."


    Click & scroll to post 12: Leo partial tail drop. Help, please.

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    Neosporin WITHOUT pain relief contains:

    "The active ingredients in Neosporin include neomycin, polymyxin and bacitracin. Inactive ingredients in Neosporin include cocoa butter, cottonseed oil, olive oil, sodium pyruvate, vitamin E and white petrolatum."

    Yossarian comments:
    • "I think the fact that Silvadene is water miscible and easily washed off makes it a far superior choice over antibiotic ointments, even though both contain white petrolatum as part of their base."
    • "Neosporin or comparable ointment versus silvadene or comparable cream. I'm no expert, but from my investigation I'd go with a product that can be easily washed off as opposed to practically waterproof, as most triple antibiotic ointments are."
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 07-27-2017 at 12:36 PM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside a vivarium <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Smile #140---Portland, Oregon Links for Locals

    (1) "Elizabeth, I don't know if you've ever visited Sunlan Lighting, but they carry every kind of bulb under the sun, and probably a half dozen or so under Alpha Centauri as well. They're on N. Mississippi, and when you're done there, the whole street is full of interesting shops and places to eat or drink. Z and I often spend many hours in the area after "just" going to Sunlan to get bulbs. Then again, since you live in PDX, you probably already know about the place, but perhaps there are other Portland locals who don't, so I'll list the site address anyway:

    Click: Sunlan Lighting - Light bulb Store | Portland, OR Thanks to IrishEyes!

    • Sunlan Lighting, Inc.
      3901 N. Mississippi Ave.
      Portland, OR 97217
      Email: kay@lightlady.com
      Tel: 503-281-0453


    (2) Lamps Plus in Portland, Oregon also stocks 20 watt halogen pucks.

    • Lamps Plus #41
      8748 SW Hall Blvd.
      Portland, Oregon 97223
      503-641-7456
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 04-19-2018 at 08:38 PM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside a vivarium <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Smile #141---Leos Respond to 5 Types of Enrichment......pdf -- 2016

    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 07-24-2017 at 06:27 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside a vivarium <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Smile #142---Table of Contents

    Table of Contents
    Leopard Gecko Care Sheet
    (work in progress)

    Hi ~ This is post 142 on one of GU's Leopard Gecko care sheets. Post 142 is the Table of Contents. All post names/numbers are individually linked. Please use left side side POST numbers.

    For suggestions, corrections, and/or updates, kindly contact me via PM.
    For 0 click: Leopard Gecko Care Sheet

    For 1 click: Leopard Geckos: From Mating to Egg Laying to Incubating......Saskia

    For 2 click: Fecal Sample Collection Procedure

    For 3 click: Leopard Gecko Genetics: Morph Calculators, et cetera

    For 4 click: Humidity Box Assists for Stuck Shed

    For 5 click: Black Soldier Fly Larvae (Phoenix/calci/repti worms & NutriGrubs) Care

    6 ~ (missing)

    For 7 click: Tips for Impaction......PoppyDear -- July 2017 + others

    For 8 click: Assist Feeding for Off-Foods Geckos (+ Gerber’s turkey baby food details)

    For 9 click: Leopard Gecko Echo: vermiculite in eye --"Pirate Echo" wearing eye patch

    For 10 click: Raising Awareness re “Big Box Quality” Pet Store Leos, et cetera -- May 2015

    For 11 click: Articles: "Dehydration in Geckos" & "Insect Hydration"

    For 12 click: Superworm Feeding Caution (Zophobas morio)......cricket4u – Jan 2012

    For 13 click: Exemplary Custom Leopard Gecko Habitats: Zelda & Yoshi’smom (Kelly)

    For 14 click: Phosphorus Interactions with Calcium......Melissa Kaplan

    For 15 click: Nutrobal multivitamins contain 150,000 IU/kg D3, et cetera -- June 2017

    For 16 click: Nekton-Rep vitamins -- April 2016

    For 17 click: Homemade Incubator Instructions

    For 18 click: Gut Loading Clarifications

    For 19 click: Repta+Boost Instructions for Severely Malnourished 1-5 gram Geckos

    For 20 click: Purchasing a Leopard Gecko

    For 21 click: Cryptosporidiosis: disinfecting, Mail Order test, + links

    For 22 click: GU’s Admin Hilde on Calcium, Vitamin A, & D3 Interactions, et cetera: posts 22, 48, 85, ***96: vits + CaCO3***

    For 23 click: Cricket Care Guidelines I -- with detailed thread

    For 24 click: Calcium powders with D3: Zoo Med, Rep-Cal, Fluker, Exo Terra, + others

    For 25 click: Nutrition Links Including Dandelions

    For 26 click: Tony Perkins’ product links for his 4th Grade Class Leo Cleo. Watch Tony’s “Leopard Gecko Care Sheet” YouTube video right at the beginning of this Leo Care Sheet

    For 27 click: Seramis Incubation Medium

    For 28 click: Pros & Cons of Common Substrates......Melissa Kaplan -- Jan 2014

    For 29 click: Zoo Med's ReptiVite™ multivitamins with Scott Stahl, DVM

    For 30 click: Proven Trap for Catching Escaped Geckos

    For 31 click: Other Custom Leo Cage Furniture

    For 32 click: Sticky Tongue Farms' MINER-ALL (Indoor, Outdoor) & VIT-ALL Supplements

    For 33 click: Hornworm Care Guidelines

    For 34 click: Powdered Assist Foods: Oxbow’s Carnivore Care, Emeraid, & Repta+Boost

    For 35 click: Cleaning Reptile Cages......cricket4u thread inc BBB steam cleaner link -- March 2012

    For 36 click: Reptile Supply Company (Sacramento, California) Contact: info@ReptileSupplyCo.com "Wholesale Reptile Supplies & Feeders" Products include Cricket Crack, Zoo Med's Natural ADULT Bearded Dragon Food, Zoo Med's ReptiVite multivitamins without D3, Superfoods ABCss: alfalfa meal, bee pollen, chlorella powder, spirulina powder, & strawberry powder

    For 37 click: Necropsy/Histopathology Protocol

    For 38 click: CagesByDesign.com's Internal Mounting Hardware

    For 39 click: 100% Pure/Plain Precipitated Calcium Carbonate Powders

    For 40 click: Exo Terra Enclosures: 36 x 18 x 12 inches tall

    For 41 click: Senior Leos (10 yo & older), Giants & Super Giants, your First Leo

    For 42 click: Repashy Products: Calcium Plus--all-in-one multivitamin, RescueCal+--calcium + magnesium supplement, Bug Burger, Grub Pie

    For 43 click: Zoo Med Under Tank Heat Mats are NOT reusable

    For 44 click: Bean Farm's Flexwatt Heat Tape Info Sheet. Stick on with (heat resistant ?) aluminum tape around the edges & with tape rolls all over (shawn101). Check Aliza’s Nashua tape.

    For 45 click: Mark D. Finke, PhD's, Feeder Insect Research: 2015 & 2005

    For 46 click: Heat Mats (UTHs): Zoo Med Repti-Therm, Ultratherm, Fluker's, IntelliTemp, & Kane

    For 47 click: Are Waxworms Addictive?......Zux -- July 2017

    For 48 click: Can plain calcium carbonate be overdosed?

    49 ~ (missing)

    For 50 click: Health Questionnaire......revised Feb 2015

    For 51 click: Leopard Gecko Research......Hilde

    For 52 click: Silkworm Guidelines I

    For 53 click: Golden Gate Gecko's Bug Slurry...comments by Mark Burgess, DVM

    For 54 click: Miscellaneous Facts about Leopard Geckos

    For 55 click: UVB lighting -- Zoo Med & Arcadia......July 2018 update

    For 56 click: Significantly Increasing Ambient Humidity in a Leo Enclosure...GU's ebross67

    For 57 click: Harmful Plants & Wood for Reptiles

    For 58 click: TetraFauna Supplements -- Tetrafauna's ReptoCal's all-in-one multivitamin has changed. The new label shows different values.

    For 59 click: Thermostats: Hydrofarm's Jump Start MTPRTC, Inkbird, Apollo, & Zilla

    For 60a click: Heating Melamine & Wooden Enclosures: Hilde, mecoat, acpart, JIMI & 60b (post 117) -- continues with JIMI’s leopard gecko Theseus’ enclosure

    For 61 click: Female Leopard Gecko (very slight tremors when walking)......dbott67 + Zux

    For 62 click: Vitamin D/D3 Dosage Research ~ Douglas R. Mader, DVM & Mark Burgess, DVM

    For 63 click: Wooden Enclosures for Leopard Geckos

    For 64 click: Why won't leos chase crickets?......cricket4u -- June 2013

    For 65 click: Treating Reptile Mites -- needs updating

    For 66 click: Leopard Geckos not eating?......acpart -- 2009 & 2010, cricket4u -- 2013, & kholtme’s sticky -- 2015

    For 67 click: Cannibalism in Leopard Geckos......Hilde -- March 2013 (+ pdf)

    For 68 click: Enigma Syndrome Information

    For 69 click: Minimum Leopard Gecko Enclosure Dimensions……cricket4u -- July 2013

    For 70 click: Why are 10 gallon kits inadequate for leopard geckos?......Muffins94 -- Aug 2013

    For 71 click: The Importance of Regular Fecal Exams

    For 72 click: Three Common Causes of Thin Tail, Anorexia, Lethargy, et cetera

    For 73 click: How to configure heat cables?......kholtme -- Aug 2015 with link

    For 74 click: Pakistan: A Leopard Geckos' Homeland

    For 75 click: Caught!......dbott67's night videos of leo Mushu eating & drinking

    For 76 click: Establishing Photoperiods for Leopard Geckos

    For 77 click: Gecko Multivitamins

    For 78 click: Update pending ----> "Locusts: Nutritional Comments"

    For 79 click: Beneficial "Pests"---natural mite solution: USA & UK links......Elizabeth Freer

    For 80 click: Repashy SuperLoad Insect Gutload Formula

    For 81 (& 87) click: Leopard Gecko Care Sheet (abbreviated) -- July 2018 update (show handout)

    For 82 click: Why does my leo hide all the time - there is hope!......GU's congener329 -- 2014

    For 83 click: Albers' All Purpose Poultry Feed

    For 84 click: cricket4u's Customized Leopard Gecko Husbandry

    For 85 click: Vitamin D3 + Calcium = Healthy Reptile Bones

    For 86 click: Nutrition Links......GU's JIMI -- May 2014

    For 87 click: Leopard Gecko Care Sheet ("bare bones only") -- May 2018 update

    For 88 click: "Assessing Reptile Welfare Using Behavioural Criteria" -- March 2013 (with cricket4u link)

    For 89 click: Reptile Gout......Kenneth Lopez, DVM & others

    For 90 click: Sand Removal Surgery on a Leopard Gecko – LIVE video coverage!

    For 91 click: Articles: "Vitamin D3 & Calcium" & "Vitamin A"......Kenneth Lopez, DVM

    For 92 click: Nutritional Analyses of Feeders charts......Mark Finke, PhD + DubiaRoaches.com

    For 93 click: Springtails......Hilde -- Aug 2014 & CrestedRick -- May 2015

    For 94 click: Successful Rescue Thread links

    For 95 click: "Vitamin A in Chameleons: Friend or Foe?"......Ivan Alfonso, DVM & Gecko Time article interview

    For 96 click: Supplementation & Diet: bugs, worms, & geckos......Hilde -- July 2014

    For 97 click: Butterworms: Nutritional Content & Care......Frank Indiviglio, herpetologist

    For 98 click: Common Mealworm & Superworm Dry Diets & Beddings -- Use something else!

    For 99 click: Mealworm & Superworm Tips......acpart, Hilde, & swisswiss -- July 2017

    For 100 click: Shipping Tips: "UniHeat 72 hour" heat packs & "Cryopak Phase 22" cold packs

    For 101 click: Cork Round Planters......CrestedRick -- June 2014

    For 102 click: Particulate Substrates & Impaction Cautions for Leopard Geckos!

    For 103 click: Balancing Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with D3 + Zoo Med's Reptivite multivitamins without D3 -- with Scott Stahl, DVM

    For 104 click: Is a hamster ball/wheel good exercise for a leopard gecko?

    For 105 click: Yellow Urates: Potential Causes……DVM feedback -- Jan 2015

    For 106 click: Under tank heat mats (UTHs): Dimensions versus Wattages

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    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 12-10-2018 at 02:24 PM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside a vivarium <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Smile #143---UVB and Nocturnal Reptiles......Andy Tedder (UK)

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    UVB and Nocturnal Reptiles......Andy Tedder

    Andy Tedder
    www.glasgowgecko.co.uk

    Andy Tedder explores a subject where much has been learnt over recent years, and one that is of increasing significance to reptile keepers, especially given the widespread popularity of leopard geckos today.

    As the experienced amongst us (and by ‘experienced’, I mean older keepers!) will agree, our understanding of the care requirements of reptiles has progressed faster in the last 15 years than any time in the past. There is a good reason for this - namely, a concerted effort by both the herpetology and herpetoculture communities to gain better insights into the biology and physiology of this group of animals.

    These advances have not been easy to achieve however, and nor has it always been simple to persuade keepers to accept and implement the resulting findings in the first instance. A current example of this is the use of lighting, specifically UVB lighting, for crepuscular and nocturnal lizards. The positive benefits of UVB exposureAs most reptile keepers will know, UVB radiation (290–315 nm), either via unfiltered natural sunlight or artificial vivarium lighting, causes pro-vitamin D (7-dehydrocholesterol) in the animal’s skin to form pre-vitamin D. This is then thermally isomerised into vitamin D₃ D3 [Holick et al., 1995]. After undergoing hydroxylation in the liver, it becomes 25-hydroxyvitamin D₃ [Holick and Clark, 1978], which is carried by the blood to the kidneys, where it is converted to its hormonally-active form known as 1,25 dihydroxyvitamin D or calcitriol [Holick et al., 1971].

    This hormone’s main function is to facilitate uptake of calcium from the gut of the animal. The importance of this chemical pathway should not be under-estimated. A failure to accumulate adequate active vitamin D₃ in the blood stream means that the body’s largest calcium reserve - the skeletal system - will otherwise become weakened. If not remedied, this can then soon lead to a calcium deficiency, generally described as metabolic bone disease (MBD).

    For this reason, it is not an over-statement to suggest that calcium metabolism is one of the most important concerns for all reptile keepers, as far as their animals are concerned. Considering the importance of calcium metabolism to the overall health and well-being of reptiles therefore, it is somewhat surprising that UVB light is still often overlooked by many keepers of nocturnal species.

    There are doubtless various reasons for this, although I am convinced the benefits that this type of supplementation bring far out-weigh any extra monetary costs. Perhaps the main argument advanced for not using a UVB source is that nocturnal lizards would not be exposed to sunlight for any length of time in the wild, and anyway, their diet is being supplemented with active vitamin D₃.

    For me, however, having studied the evidence, it is clear that the use of lighting is beneficial. Many keepers may instead choose a vitamin supplement with a source of active vitamin D₃. Typical supplementation regimens will usually include two or three days of multivitamin use (which includes D₃) and then the addition of pure calcium or a multivitamin supplementation with each feed on the remaining days.

    Does it work?
    Anecdotal evidence suggests that using a routine as set out above can be effective. Many experienced keepers and professionals will tell you that this type of method has consistently worked for them, and indeed, in many cases, it would appear that it is possible to achieve correct calcium metabolism in this way. However, there are also some potential problems with it:

    • The vitamin D₃ source in many commercial supplements is subject to decay (as are all the components), with the rate of decay being unknown. This means that the supplement you purchase ‘new’ in the reptile shop could already have become less potent than was initially intended. Unfortunately, this means that without altering your previously effective supplementation routine, you might possibly be unknowingly under supplementing your animals.

    • Designing a supplementation regimen which is appropriate for your animal and provides optimal vitamin D₃ is very difficult, having noted the potential problems if this is not achieved. While it is important that both vitamin D₃ and calcium are not under-supplemented, it is also equally vital that they are not over-supplemented.

    • Gauging the amount of vitamin D₃ that your animal is actually receiving without blood testing is impossible. This means that incorrect supplementation may easily go un-noticed, and can potentially lead to problems. This difficulty can also be amplified by a variation in D₃ and calcium requirements within a species. For example, it is conceivable that females during ovulation and rapidly-growing juveniles require higher levels of D₃ than adult males.

    Bearing these problems in mind, it becomes very difficult to see how a general oral supplementation regimen can suit all individuals within a species, let alone all species within a collection.

    Further problems caused by vitamin D₃ deficiency
    Calcium metabolism in both adult and juvenile lizards is not the only reason that UVB is important for captive lizards. Many studies have demonstrated a link between vitamin D₃ and captive hatching rates in reptiles. Over many years, both professional organisations concerned with conservation and private keepers have observed a problem with the failure of their captive-produced eggs to hatch at term [Zwart et al., 1992; Ferguson et al., 1996].

    Seemingly viable eggs are produced by apparently healthy captive-raised adults, and incubate to full term but then fail to hatch. On further inspection, the fully developed, dead embryos appear normal but have poorly-mineralized skeletons. This problem has also been documented in various non-reptilian species and has been verified experimentally to be a the result of a deficiency of vitamin D in the egg yolk caused by hypovitaminosis D (a lack of this vitamin) in the mother [Narbaitz and Tsang, 1989; Packard and Clark, 1996]. This problem can be corrected in many species by providing sufficient UVB lighting for the adult female prior to egg-laying [Ferguson et al., 1996; Ferguson et al., 2002].

    Is a UVB source really the answer?
    We frequently hear that nocturnal species do not naturally expose themselves to UVB light for prolonged periods in the wild, and this is likely to be true. As a result however, the skin of nocturnal reptiles allows for greater conversion of pro-vitamin D to photoproducts when exposed to UVB from a lamp. This means that nocturnal species can utilize UVB in a much shorter space of time than their diurnal counterparts, whose reduced skin efficiency in terms of vitamin D photobiosynthesis probably reflects their increased exposure to sunlight. Basically, they don’t need to be as efficient in utilising UVB, as they are active throughout the period when UVB is most readily available - during the day.

    This evolutionary adaptation allows nocturnal lizards to utilize UVB radiation in very short periods of time, and has been demonstrated experimentally in recent studies on diurnal species. These have concluded that a short period of UVB exposure (two hours) enables adequate concentrations of plasma vitamin D₃ metabolites to be maintained. On the other hand, it has also been shown conclusively that oral supplementation of D₃ does not allow this to happen [Oonincx et al. 2010; Fraser, 1983]. Unfortunately, what this study suggests is that although many keepers may not be experiencing problems when using oral supplements, they may nevertheless still not be fulfilling their reptiles’ requirements adequately.

    What does this mean for your nocturnal species?
    Well, while it is clear that there are plenty of examples where current supplementation regimens appear to be working, and according to many keepers, working well. I think it is also fair to say, however, that there are also situations where it is not working. The benefits to using UVB for short periods in each 24 hour cycle are also great. Allowing your animal to regulate its own vitamin D₃ and calcium metabolism may remove some of the guesswork associated with this type of supplementation, and reduce the number of cases of MBD.

    It is also important to note at this point that changing the supplementation routine will be necessary, when you introduce a UVB source. This change would ideally involve a switch to a product which does not contain active vitamin D₃, but one that still meets the animal’s calcium and micro-nutrient requirements in general, incorporating other essential vitamins and minerals for example.

    Behavioural impact of UVA
    Beneficial lighting for reptiles is not restricted to UVB, and it can be important to allow for more natural behaviour and increase breeding success. Indeed, studies on the effects of UVA radiation have been shown to have a profound impact on certain behavioural traits in reptiles. In particular, UVA is responsible for an increase in behavioural traits associated with reproduction or courtship, along with social behaviour in certain species and territorial behaviour in many others. I believe that these traits are very important for many species, and lack of UVA light may explain why their behaviour may differ, certainly when compared with their wild counterparts.

    In conclusion
    In the past, the idea of UV lighting for nocturnal reptiles appeared something of a contentious issue, with keepers on both sides of the debate proposing alternative arguments. The evidence presented here gives firm evidence that both UVA and UVB may have a profound positive impact on the health, behaviour and reproductive success of nocturnal reptiles.

    As with all changes in husbandry practices however, this evidence may not be universally accepted at present. Nevertheless, all keepers should strive to provide the best conditions possible for their animals, and in the case of vitamin D₃/ calcium metabolism, it would appear that oral supplementation may not be the best answer. In my experience, the positive benefits of using a UVA and UVB source in a vivarium housing nocturnal species far out-weigh the costs associated with using this type of lighting.



    References
    Ferguson GW, Gehrmann WH, Chen TC, Dierenfeld ES, Holick MF. 2002. Effects of Artificial Ultraviolet Light Exposure on Reproductive Success of the Female Panther Chameleon (Furcifer pardalis) in Captivity. Zoo Biology 21(6): 525-537.

    Ferguson GW, Gehrmann WH, Karsten KB, Hammack SH, McRae M, Chen TC, Lung NP, Holick MF. 2003. Do Panther Chameleons Bask to Regulate Endogenous Vitamin D3 Production? Physiological and Biochemical Zoology 76(1): 52-59.

    Ferguson GW, Gehrmann WH, Karsten KB, Landwer AJ, Carman EN, Chen TC, Holick MF. 2005. Ultraviolet Exposure and Vitamin D Synthesis in a Sun Dwelling and a Shade Dwelling Species of Anolis: Are There Adaptations for Lower Ultraviolet B and Dietary Vitamin D3 Availability in the Shade? Physiological and Biochemical Zoology 78(2): 193-200.

    Ferguson GW, Jones JR, Gehrmann WH, Hammack SH, Talent LG, Hudson RD, Dierenfeld ES, Fitzpatrick MP, Frye FL, Holick MF, Chen TC, Lu Z, Gross TS, Vogel JJ. 1996. Indoor Husbandry of the Panther Chameleon (Chamaeleo [Furcifer] pardalis): Effects of Dietary Vitamins A and D and Ultraviolet Irradiation on Pathology and Life-History Traits. Zoo Biology 15(3): 279-299.

    Fraser DR. 1983. The Physiological Economy of Vitamin D. Lancet 321: 969-972.

    Holick MF. 2003. Vitamin D: A Millennium Perspective. Journal of Cellular Biochemistry 88(2): 296-307.

    Holick MF, Richtand N, Mcneil S, Frommer J, Clark MB, Henley J, Holick SA, Potts JT. 1978. Mechanism for Synthesis of Vitamin-D3 in Skin During Sunlight Exposure. Clinical Research 26(3): A417-A417.

    Holick MF, Schnoes HK, Deluca HF. 1971. Identification of 1,25-Dihydroxycholecalciferol, a Form of Vitamin-D3 Metabolically Active in Intestine. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America 68(4): 803-7.

    Holick MF, Tian XQ, Allen M. 1995. Evolutionary Importance for the Membrane Enhancement of the Production of Vitamin-D3 in the Skin of Poikilothermic Animals. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America 92( 8 ): 3124-3126.

    Narbaitz R, Tsang CP. 1989. Vitamin D Deficiency in the Chick Embryo: Effects on Prehatching Motility and on the Growth and Differentiation of Bones, Muscles and Parathyroid Glands. Calcif Tissue Int. 44: 348-355.

    Oonincx DGAB, Stevens Y, van den Borne JJGC, van Leeuwen JPTM, Hendriks WH. 2010. Effects of Vitamin D-3 Supplementation and Uvb Exposure on the Growth and Plasma Concentration of Vitamin D-3 Metabolites in Juvenile Bearded Dragons (Pogona vitticeps). Comparative Biochemistry and Physiology B-Biochemistry & Molecular Biology 156(2): 122-128.

    Packard MJ, Clark MB. 1996. Aspects of Calcium Regulation in Embryonic Lepidosaurians and Chelonians and a Review of Calcium Regulation in Embryonic Archosaurians. Physiol Zool 69: 435-466.

    Zwart VP, Langerwerf BWA, Claesson H, Leunisse JJC, Mennes J, Riel CV, Lambrechts L, Kik MJL. 1992. Health Aspects in Breeding and Rearing Insectivorous Lizards from Moderate Climatic Zones. Zool Garten 62: 46-52.


    Andy Tedder is an enthusiastic breeder of geckos, with a keen interest in their genetics. You can find his web site at www.glasgowgecko.co.uk
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 08-15-2017 at 02:59 AM. Reason: Fine-tuned the edit :)
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside a vivarium <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
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    Smile #144---Repashy's Calcium Plus multivitamin Schedule for Leopard Geckos -- August 2017

    Oftentimes experienced keepers and breeders tweak the supplements more than the manufacturer suggests based upon the health of their leopard geckos.

    Supplements stick better to crickets and to dubia than they do to mealworms or to superworms.

    Here's the Repashy's Calcium Plus (all-in-one) multivitamins schedule that GU's acpart (Aliza Arzt) has used for all her leopard geckos ----> breeders and non-breeders. You'll need 2 different powders.

    Repashy's Calcium Plus (all-in-one) multivitamins
    (without UVB)

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    R = Repashy's Calcium Plus, Cc = pure precipitated calcium carbonate (without vitamin D3)

    Week 1:
    M-------T-------W------Th-------F-------Sat-------Sun
    R.....................Cc.......................... .....R...................


    Week 2:
    M-------T-------W------Th-------F-------Sat-------Sun
    Cc...............................R................ ..........................

    For hatchlings 0-2 months old: Aliza also places a bottle cap of pure precipitated calcium carbonate (without vitamin D3) in the cage 24/7.

    Repeat this schedule every 2 weeks throughout your leos' lives.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 09-26-2018 at 03:50 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside a vivarium <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Smile #145---Gecko Shipping Tips......Elizabeth Freer -- January 2018 (July 2018 update)


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    Important: Have the box HAL (Held at Location) for the recipient's pick up! ONLY ship Monday--Wednesday.
    These methods work for 12 x 9 x 6 inch shipping boxes with 1/2 inch (or 3/4 inch) styrofoam insulation.

    Several years ago I switched to 72 hour UniHeat packs for any shipment any time. A "2-day delay" = 72 hours from shipping time. Some places even sell 96 hour UniHeat packs!

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    Gecko(s):
    Make certain the gecko(s) are well-hydrated right before their trip.

    Place each gecko in a separate ventilated deli cup. Loosely pack DRY paper towel strips around the gecko inside his deli cup to prevent him from bouncing around.

    Box:
    Caution -- Make certain the paper towel strips surrounding the gecko in the deli cup and in the box are DRY. If the paper towels are damp at all, they will cause the contents of the UniHeat pack to clump and will shorten the UniHeat pack's life.

    Especially in winter the ideal thickness of styrofoam insulation is 3/4 inch thick.

    Use a Phillips screwdriver to poke 1-4 small hole(s) through the cardboard and a second small hole through the styrofoam. These holes are offset somewhat (or not). Place a single inch-wide strip of tape on the edge of each bottom and top flap (8 strips in all). Solidly tape the center bottom and top. Be careful NOT to tape over these ventilation hole(s)!

    With the heat pack’s ventilation holes facing inwards towards the gecko(s), place the heat pack against the far wall of the box or in between the gecko deli cups, NOT directly against the styrofoam hole. Sometimes I wrap the heat pack with paper towels.

    Depending upon the routing of the box and the destination's temperatures, you may wish to increase the number of holes you poke through the styrofoam and cardboard. To reduce heat output, wrap the heat pack with 1-2 layers of paper towels.

    At the present time I use styro "peanuts" as packing. Some "peanuts" dissolve when wet. Don't use those.

    Box Enclosures:
    Care sheet(s), extra mailing label, extra box label, and complete emergency details on reaching sender, recipient, & shipping company's contact person

    Box Labels:
    Include common name(s), scientific name(s), numbers, sizes (weights and/or lengths), & sexes of geckos

    Actual Shipping:
    Use a company that specializes in shipping reptiles. That reduces shipping costs and provides extra measures of experience and safety from your home to a gecko's next home.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 07-20-2018 at 09:26 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside a vivarium <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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