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    Smile Correlophus ciliatus (crested gecko) Care Sheet Summary & Tips -- March 2017 update


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    Never feed butterworms to cresties or to any other New Caledonian gecko! Butterworms will cause severe facial burns and potentially mouth burns!!!
    Enclosures
    • Minimum size for 1 crestie: 15 gallon turned on end (or 20 long or 20 regular), both with many climbing opportunities and hiding places! Remove one end of the 15 gallon; replace with hardware cloth (mesh top) for ventilation. For the front buy a Plexiglas® panel with a door.
    • Exo Terra vertical vivarium: 18 x 18 x 24 inches/45 x 45 x 60 cm. National Geographic manufactures a 16 x 16 x 24 inches that's available at Petsmart.
    Occupant(s)
    • 1 crested gecko per vertical vivarium is ideal.
    • 2 males will fight.
    • 2 females could fight.
      • If housing a couple females together, they should be of similar sizes.
      • Always have a backup enclosure available in which to separate, just in case they get aggressive.
    Temperatures
    • Days: 70-80ish *F (21.1-26.7ish *C) Sometimes I catch my crestie basking on his chill bar right beneath either a 15 watt or a 25 watt incandescent bulb. Bulb wattage depends upon the season. The temperature right there is low to mid-80s*F (26.7-28.9*C).
    • Nights: lows to ~67*F (~19.4*C)
    Lighting
    • During the days mid-May through mid-September I keep a normal 15 watt incandescent bulb over my crestie. The rest of the year it's a 25 watt bulb. That bulb provides a photoperiod, adds some heat, and sheds light on the potted sansevieria.
    Substrates
    • Youngsters => paper towels; subadults & older => Eco Earth's coco fiber
    • Non-planted vivariums: Expandable brick of Eco Earth coco fiber (or maybe Miracle-Gro Organic Choice Potting Mix)
    • Planted vivariums: ABG's substrate mix from Josh's Frogs is an excellent choice to keep your plants healthy.
    Plants, et cetera
    • Silk foliage
    • Repot store plants in fertilizer-free soil.
    • Terra cotta pots help maintain humidity. That's similar to using a layered substrate that contains clay culture marbles (Hydroton).
    • A medium tall or tall sansevieria (snake plant) potted in its own pot will help keep up humidity. Let the sansevieria dry out between waterings. Sansevieria are tough enough to support bouncy cresties!
    • Hilde: "All the crested enclosures now have some pothos, jewel orchids, and other flowering vines that are sturdy enough, or will recover fast enough from all the jumping. I'll even use plants meant for the garden - buy them at the garden centre in full bloom, plant them in the enclosure for as long as they last. I like the idea of the geckos getting pollen and nectar, and also gives them something more natural than fake plants."
    Cage Furniture
    • digital thermometer with a probe
    • ~3 inch diameter rough rock for shedding help
    • ~4 ounce water dish containing fresh water
    • Feeding ledges are nice, but not totally necessary. Ledges that attach with clamp-down levers are more secure than ledges that attach with magnets.
    • food dish for crickets and dubia: I sometimes use a Lee's 24 ounce hexagonal Betta container to contain the crickets.
    • Exo Terra Jungle Vines---bendable vines that come in thick and thin diameters. Twist a couple vines together to give your crested gecko secure footing.
    • Galapagos Moss Vine (bendable)
    • Mossy sticks (Reptile Supply Company)
    • sleeping and hide options
      • thick bamboo (~1.5 inches in diameter) big enough for an adult crestie to hide in/sleep in
      • narrow cork bark tube 2-3 inches in diameter. This is a good alternative for your crestie's hideout/"sleeping bag".
      • Galapagos (0534 eight) Mossy Cave Hide 6 in green sphagnum moss (Also available in 4 inch size.)
    • Brown paper bags cut to size and taped on the exposed sides (not already backed by room walls) will make your vivarium more private and help your crestie feel safe.
    "Chill Bar" Ideas
    • #1: A flat section of cork bark makes a great basking bar for Jess's crestie in her 18x18x24 Exo Terra. Jess drilled one hole in each end and one on the back. Maybe 2 side-by-side holes in the back would work as well. Suspend this basking bar from the screen top with fishing line. A narrow cork tube would work too. (Thanks to JessJohnson87!)
    • #2: A ~6 inch or so section of bamboo or PVC split lengthwise & suspended about 2 inches from the screen top. See post 1 below for details. (Thanks to meloha!)
    • #3: Horizontally and/or diagonally placed bamboo or PVC for climbing/basking. (Cut a 1.5 inch diameter "horizontal" section by cutting it a smidge shorter than needed. Then place a suction cup at each end to secure it to the vivarium.)
    • #4: Bamboo attached to the vivarium on either end with suction cups and wrapped with Exo Terra Jungle Vines (which flatten out). (Thanks to Elliriyanna!)
    Diet
    • Pangea's Complete powdered diets: insect, banana/apricot, & watermelon/mango.
    • Well-fed crickets or dubia. My crestie eats mostly crickets.
    • When using powdered diets, also feed your crestie insects several times per month.
    Supplements
    • Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with vitamin D3 depending upon your crestie's diet.
    • Perhaps a wee bit of Zoo Med's plain (no D3) Reptivite multivitamins occasionally depending upon your crestie's diet.
    Miscellaneous
    • Spraymaster hand mister...really durable! Has 5 year warranty.
    • Not required ~~~> Cooper digital hygrometer/thermometer takes both readings at the probe: Bean Farm (- The Bean Farm) sells this through Amazon and independently.
    Humidity
    • Spray heavily in the evening. Let dry out during the day. You're aiming for damp substrate, not soggy substrate. Too much moisture causes mold!
    Sexing
    • Sexing crested geckos may be possible at 10 grams. It's much easier at 20 grams. To see their vents and potential male pores and hemipenal bulges gently press their bodies up against the side of the glass or plastic enclosure. They'll squirm if you try to turn them over.
    • Here's a male.
      male800.jpg
    • Click: Sexing Crested Geckos
    Incubating Crested Eggs......Hilde -- April 2011
    • "The most common temperature range used is in the 21-24°C / 70-75°F. I keep them even cooler -- 18.5-20°C / 65-68°F. It takes much longer for them to hatch, but the hatchlings are much stronger and bigger, makes them easier to care for."


    Click: JB's Crested Gecko Info
    Click: Crested Gecko Growth Rates
    Click: https://www.morphmarket.com/us/c/rep...ed-geckos/home

    Links thanks to JessJohnson87
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 06-20-2019 at 06:10 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
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    Lightbulb #1---Chill Bars......thanks to GU's meloha, JessJohnson87, & Elliriyanna

    Cresties feel safer the higher they climb. So I suspend a "chill bar" several inches down from the screen top.

    Chill Bar Idea #1 (Thanks to JessJohnson87!)
    A flat section of cork bark makes a great basking bar for Jess's crestie in her 18x18x24 Exo Terra. Jess drilled one hole in each end and one on the back. Maybe 2 side-by-side holes in the back would work as well. Suspend this basking bar from the screen top with fishing line. A narrow cork tube would work too.

    Chill Bar Idea #2 (Thanks to meloha!)
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    Here is your platform: |__:__(crestie sits here)__:__|
    • Take a 6 inch or so section of bamboo (or PVC).
    • Split it lengthwise.
    • Drill a pair of small holes near both ends where the red dots are.
    • Cut two wires 8 inches long.
    • Thread the wires through the holes like this: U so that the bamboo's opening faces down (like a tunnel).
    • Poke the wires through the screen top.
    • Bend the ends of the wires at right angles like this to hold: L

    Chill Bar Idea #3
    • Use ~1.5 inch diameter bamboo or PVC.
    • Cut a section a smidge shorter than you need.
    • Get some large suction cups. Remove the hooks.
    • Put a suction cup in each end.
    • Mount the chill bar a couple inches from the viv's top. When you use suction cups, you'll have no sticky mess!

    Chill Bar Idea #4 (Thanks to Elliriyanna!)
    • Cut a thin section of bamboo just the width of your enclosure.
    • Wrap the narrow bamboo with Exo Terra Jungle Vines. These jungle vines will flatten out when wrapped around the bamboo.
    • For the most secure fit place a suction cup in either end.


    = 1 happy crestie!
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 10-31-2016 at 03:55 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Lightbulb #2---Cork Round Planters......thanks to CrestedRick -- June 2014

    Click: http://www.geckosunlimited.com/commu...-planters.html

    A great idea for any vivarium!
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 07-15-2017 at 02:45 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
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    Lightbulb #3---Hexagon Screen Top......thanks to booth2010 (March 2015)

    This link shows a custom cover for a hexagon tank.

    Click: http://www.geckosunlimited.com/commu...agon-tank.html
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 03-15-2015 at 02:18 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
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    Lightbulb #4---Drainage & substrate amount calculator......thanks to CrestedRick -- July 2015

    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 07-15-2017 at 02:45 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
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    Lightbulb #5---10 gallon conversion to a vertical vivarium......thanks to GU's meloha

    Meloha converts standard 10s.
    • Remove the glass on one end...carefully.
    • Create a screen top from 1/4 inch hardware cloth and spray it white (optional).
    • Bend the hardware cloth/screen over the sides.
    • Stick a strip of velcro along the front and the back edges of the vivarium's top.
    • Then lay the hardware cloth on top.
    • Secure both the front and back edges with other the other part of the velcro.
    • Meloha then has custom Plexiglas® panels made to fill the normal opening of the 10 gallon.
    • In the center of each Plexiglas® panel there is a hinged door.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 07-02-2016 at 04:21 PM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Lightbulb #6---Custom Soil Mix especially for Sansevieria (snake plant): fertilizer-free

    Cresties are hard on plants, because they bounce around like Tigger. Use resilient plants like sansevieria.

    Sansevieria varieties include squatty ones, upright ones, and very tall ones.

    Plant sansevieria in terra cotta pots or in plastic pots. CrestedRick's cork bark round planters work fine too.

    I plant most my sansevieria in this fertilizer-free, perlite-free, custom mix or in fertilizer-free sandy soil. They do well. (This mix is poor for pothos.)
    • 2/3 Wonder Worm Earth Worm Castings (pure form of humus)
    • 1/3 Eco Earth coco fiber

    Sansevieria are quite tolerant of low light. A 15-25 watt incandescent bulb from Ace Hardware or Home Depot overhead in an 8.5 inch dome fixture during the day will be all the sansevieria needs to support its growth. Let sansevieria dry out between watering.

    I use either incandescent bulbs or UVB from Zoo Med's Reptisun 5.0 T8 tubes.


    PS:
    Another interesting low light plant is Ludisia discolor (jewel orchid). It's beautiful leaves are dark and velvet-like with pinkish stripes. It's bottle brush shaped clusters of small white blossoms are OK.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 06-24-2019 at 07:00 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Lightbulb #7---Jewel Orchid links & Bioactive Substrate Comments......Jess & Hilde -- Feb 2016

    Links contributed by JessJohnson87:

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    Contributed by Elizabeth Freer -- July 2017:

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    Contributions by Hilde:

    "Ludisia discolor are terrestrial orchids, meaning they grow in soil, not on trunks like the more popular orchids. That makes them easier to maintain. They also don't like lots of bright light, which you can tell by the purple-brown leaves. Most of our terrariums don't have bright lights, which works well with them. As long as you have a full spectrum fluorescent tube, or a decent bulb, it works for them. I've even kept them in a terrarium that just gets light from a nearby window.

    "One enclosure had a double tube fluorescent fixture, the orchids died within weeks, which is how I found out about using too much light. One tube over a 4 ft/120cm enclosure is enough for them. It's also bright enough for the geckos, they're used to being in the tree canopy, not much blinding, direct light reaches them.

    "There's also no need to use fertilizer. The geckos supply most of it, which is broken down by the soil bacteria, or isopods and springtails which are part of a bio-active set-up. If you add crickets once in a while, they add to the organic fertilizer as well, either their poop, or any bodies of those that didn't get eaten."

    Hilde continues:
    "I've used a bit of the 'junk' cleaned out of the cricket tank and mealworm bins. It looks a bit messy, so I just lightly stir it into the soil, enough to cover it up. It's all natural fertilizer, same as what happens in the wild. The soil microbes, springtails, isopods, and whatnot will deal with it. It's better than the fertilizer you can buy; not concentrated enough to damage the roots as chemical preparations can, it's time released, plentiful, and free.

    "I'm sure roach poo would work just as well."
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 05-25-2019 at 05:18 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Lightbulb #8---LARGE Communal Crestie Hatchling & Juvenile Enclosures......Hilde

    These threads provide pictures and details of Hilde's hatchling and juvenile set-ups.


    "I don't have air conditioning, so they get whatever temperature the house is at. In summer, during a heatwave, it can get into the mid 90s for a few days. In winter, the furnace is set to 64F at night, 68F daytime.

    "That 'over 85F is too hot, it will kill them' argument is invalid, if they get misted enough. Not misting enough at that heat can kill them. They typically need a humid set-up, so they do just fine when it's warmer for a stretch of days.

    "Normal day-to-day "ideal" range is mid-70s to mid-80s. They can take a much bigger temperature range than people typically give them.

    "I got my first crested, leachies, and gargoyles in 1997, so I do have a fair bit of hands-on experience with them.

    "My oldest crestie hatched in autumn '96, still going strong. The oldest leachie is from '99, and I just lost my oldest gargoyle in 2016, hatched in '98. The youngest of the "Rhacs" is 10, so I would think they do very well in the temperature range that Aimless and I use.

    "None of mine are kept in critter keepers. They thrive much better in larger set-ups, 10 gallon minimum for one hatchling, 20 for one juvie. My 50+ gallon hatchling and juvie set-ups are communal, raised in groups, no problems."

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    Hilde adds on 21 August 2019:

    "I've always raised my cresties in large enclosures, never ever had a problem. Some were on their own in 20 gallon tanks, but the majority of them were raised in groups in 50 and 65 gallon setups.

    "Not one of them starved because it couldn't find the food, either CGD or insects. If you check the threads in these links, you can see there are a lot of plants for insects to hide in, but the geckos still found them."

    New crestie nursery tank
    Crested hatchling tank - naturalistic setup

    "Wild crestie hatchlings have no problem growing up in an 'enclosure' the size of the forest they're in, so why would anyone think they can't find their food, or are too scared of big open spaces like a 10 or 20 gallon enclosure?

    "Kritter keepers or tiny containers don't have enough room for them to do anything, they have more room in bigger enclosures, can act more like geckos, not crunched up captives.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 08-21-2019 at 09:07 PM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Lightbulb #9---Meal Replacement Powders (MRPs) info +......Moon Valley Reptiles


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    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 07-15-2017 at 02:55 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
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