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    Click: Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus (Thai Ocelot Gecko) Care Sheet -- 26 February 2018

    Click: Cyrtodactylus peguensis | The Reptile Database

    The risk of calcium crash is no joke! ALL Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus females, who are producing ANY eggs, are extremely susceptible to blood calcium crashes!

    VITAL tip: When I started back up with these gorgeous geckos in September 2015, European breeder Georg Simon shared this important advice with me!!!
    "Most important: Offer them sepia skulls (cuttle bone) in small crumbs, NOT just powder! They will eat it pure!" (NOT the actual cuttle shell -- the "softer" powder part)

    These females are EXTREMELY prone to calcium crashes once they begin developing eggs whether those eggs are fertile or not. Both my original females died (April 2015 & August 2015) from calcium crashes.

    NOW for all these geckos including egg-laying females I lightly dust ALL prey at nearly every feeding with Zoo Med's supplements and this rotation (if not Monday, Wednesday, and Friday). For mature males I lightly dust 1/2 the prey.
    • Monday - Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with D3
    • Wednesday - plain precipitated calcium carbonate (Zoo Med or NOW brand)
    • Friday - Zoo Med's Reptivite withOUT D3

    ADD a small dish of shaved cuttle bone for 24/7 access for females who are producing ANY eggs! You won't be sorry. Females need those supplements throughout their lives on a very regular basis!
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    Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus (Thai Ocelot Gecko) Care Sheet
    26 February 2018
    Updated: 5 July 2019
    (work in progress)

    NOTE: If you took any of these photos, please let me know via Geckos Unlimited or FB Private Message so that I can give you proper credit. Many thanks!


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    SCIENTIFIC NAME
    Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus

    COMMON NAMES
    Thai Ocelot Gecko, Pegu Forest Gecko, Thai Bow-fingered Gecko, & Thai Bent-toed Gecko

    DISTRIBUTION & TYPE LOCALITY
    Distribution of subspecies zebraicus: Thailand
    Type locality: Ronpibon, Nakhon Si Thammarat, Thailand

    This subspecies, Crytodactylus peguensis zebraicus, is mentioned by German Boris Klusmeyer in the Reptile Data Base. It was classified in 1962 by Taylor and in 1999 by Chan-Ard et al.
    • Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus Edward Harrison Taylor 1962: 213
    • Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus Tanya Chan-Ard et al. 1999: 113

    DESCRIPTION & SIZE
    Many seem to begin life with yellowish, honeycombed-like, bodies and heads. Their tails are alternating bands of black and white. As they mature, many hatchlings "lose" their yellowish bodies and heads. Sometimes their hatchling body color changes to brown.

    Hatchlings begin life at less than 1 gram. In the beginning they seem to usually gain 1 gram per month.

    My younger adult male weighs 7.8 grams. He seems to have maxed out. My 6.5 yo male is larger. Both females weigh 10+ grams.

    BEHAVIOR
    ***These geckos are mostly active at dusk, during the night, and at dawn.***

    Males occasionally "chirp" loudly. They'll even chirp when someone IS watching! Females infrequently "peep" softly.

    They are crepuscular and very secretive. They love their narrow cork bark tubes!

    My adults drink from their water dishes.

    They don't have "sticky feet". Give them something to grip like Exo Terra's Jungle Vines and narrow cork bark tubes, so they can fully explore their homes.

    HOUSING IN CAPTIVITY
    I keep 3 of my 4 adult Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus on layered substrates, so that I can periodically water the substrate. That keeps the relative humidity somewhat higher than in my bedroom. It keeps the topmost substrate layer relatively dry. I occasionally spray the enclosures.
    • Bottom layer ~ a couple inches of Hydroton clay culture balls
    • Mid layer ~ weedblocker cloth: a porous black cloth that lets water pass through
    • Top layer ~ well-washed fine grade orchid bark in my 20 gallon regular; Eco Earth's coco fiber in 2 of 3 smaller habitats.

    In the 6.5 yo male's (hatched: 26 Aug 2011) 20 gallon regular enclosure I have
    • 1 cork bark flat on 2/3rds of the back wall
    • 3 long narrow cork bark tunnels
    • 3 inch diameter water dish
    • 8 ounce clear glass food dish with vertical sides
    • 2 small coconut shell hides
    • 2 large Exo Terra's Jungle Vines -- very important for climbing! (Try buying 1 large + 1 small jungle vine and twisting them together.)
    • 1 philodendron plastic hanging plant with small leaves
    • Silk hanging plants with variegated leaves. Some silk plants are suspended from the screen top.

    TEMPERATURES
    All the enclosures sit in my upstairs gecko room/bedroom. Round-the-clock temperatures during the summer range from 71 - 80ish*F (21.7*C - 26.7*C). At night the actual temperature may drop to 69ish*F (20.6*C). The room's thermostat is set for 71*F year-round.

    LIGHTING
    Mine are kept with natural room lighting only. Their room has a large southern-facing window and an eastern-facing deck door with full glass window panes.

    These chirpers receive "subdued" room lighting. Most the chirpers are on the 5 foot long x 18 inch wide rack along the south wall next to the window, but in the corner. Their two shelves are blocked off on the window end by 18 x 12 inch construction paper. My 1.2 breeders 12 feet across the room from the southern window always hide during the day in their coconut hides, in their cork bark tubes, or elsewhere. The eastern door -- mostly windows -- lets morning sun into the room for a few hours daily.

    HUMIDITY
    June room humidity fluctuates between 40-55%. "Enclosure humidity" is somewhat higher.

    FEEDING & SUPPLEMENTS
    Start hatchlings off with frequent feedings of lightly dusted 1/8 inch crickets. Soon they'll accept larger prey.

    As they mature feed these geckos well-fed and lightly dusted crickets about 3x per week. Other people also feed them wee Blaptica dubia and mealworm larvae.

    Feed hatchlings just about daily. For the entire group of growing chirpers I rotate Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with D3, plain calcium carbonate, and Zoo Med's Reptivite multivitamins without D3 every 3 feedings.

    Feed and supplement the breeding females as follows. I include the young male, but only lightly dust half his prey.
    • Monday ~ lightly dust all crickets with Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with D3
    • Wednesday ~ lightly dust all crickets with plain - no D3 calcium carbonate
    • Friday ~ lightly dust all crickets with Zoo Med's Reptivite multivitamins without D3

      In addition, for each female who is producing eggs -- whether or not she has been mated -- provide a shallow dish of shaved cuttle bone. They devour the cuttle bone chunks and powder!

    Each time I feed these geckos, I moisten 1/2 their paper towel or blue shop paper towel substrate with water to increase the humidity. They actually lap water directly from those paper towels!
    SEXING
    Males develop substantial hemipenal bulges AND they chirp early on! Sexing them at about 6 months is easy.

    Males are sometimes smaller than females.

    BREEDING & INCUBATION
    Wait until females and males are at least 18 mo prior to breeding.
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    • Hunt for eggs: carefully search Eco Earth's coco fiber substrate.
    • Carefully place eggs individually in bottle caps upon a dry substrate like seramis.
    • Then place each bottle cap into a deli container that contains a damp incubation medium like seramis.
    • Cover deli container with perforated lid.
    • Place deli container into a 2.5 gallon glass enclosure that has a 1/2 glass-covered screen top.
    • Keep eggs at room temperature between 70ish*F ----> to 80*F MAX.
    • As humidity increases, beads of moisture build up in the deli container.

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    These geckos take about 5 months to hatch when their eggs are kept between 69ish*F - 80ish*F (but not year-round). Even a room spike to 88*F for several hours on the 24 June 2017 when my small town experienced a record-breaking high of 101.25 did not slow things down. (Whew!)

    Other keepers have reported 100, 180, & 201 day hatch times.

    FYI: Because I've been cautioned about temperatures exceeding 80*F with this species, I mention that during that HOT 24 June 2017 day Derek's then nearly 6 yo male survived the afternoon with room temperatures reaching 94*F. His 20 gallon regular enclosure was too heavy to move downstairs.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 07-07-2019 at 05:48 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    The risk of calcium crash is no joke! Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus breeding females are extremely susceptible to blood calcium crashes!
    In 2015 both my adult female Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus females passed away. Their main symptom was seizures. I took the 2nd one to the vet after she laid her first eggs. The vet felt her jaws. He said: "If her jaws are firm, she has sufficient calcium." At roughly 10 grams she was too small for a blood calcium draw. The vet also worked out a dosage of Repashy's Rescue Cal + which contains Calcium Lactate Gluconate and Magnesium Lactate, but it was too late.

    In between seizures this 2nd female laid 2 more eggs. Not one of her 4 well-formed eggs was fertile. In addition she literally "came back to life" for 41 more hours after intermittent CPR and M-t-M immediately following her death.

    These breeding females needed much more calcium than I had been providing. It turns out that decent bone density does NOT equal adequate blood calcium levels. Since the youngsters occasionally lay infertile eggs, powdered supplements just about 3x per week work well.

    In September 2015 I got a tip from a EU breeder: "Most important: Offer breeding females sepia skulls (cuttlebone) in small crumbs, not just powder! They will eat it pure!" (Just don't shave the actual bone.)

    : This schedule has worked very well for these geckos. In September 2015 I also changed the cricket diet from Alber's All Purpose Poultry Feed to Zoo Med's Natural ADULT Bearded Dragon Food. I've never looked back.

    Monday ~ Crickets lightly dusted with Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with D3
    Wednesday ~ Crickets lightly dusted with pure (plain) precipitated calcium carbonate
    Friday ~ Crickets lightly dusted with Zoo Med's ReptiVite multivitamins without D3

    + a small dish of shaved cuttlebone in the breeding adult females' cages
    My 2 new females are proud moms of 21 hatchlings since 14 February 2017! I'm stoked too!
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 03-18-2018 at 06:02 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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