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Old 05-12-2008, 11:30 AM
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Hey guys, seems like I may have found the right spot.... I a 20 year old from Iowa. Probably wondering where that is... Anyways I'm looking for a new pet. I can't keep dogs under the restrictions of the apartment. And my GF's allergic to cats... And I want something a little more exciting than a fish. I use to have Anoles when I was younger. If I remember right they were pretty easy to keep alive. Just buy/catch crickets for them to eat and you are all good. This time around I want a Gecko though.

My local pet store has a few kinds, a Marbled, Leopard, and two goldens? Not sure on the last two... Anyways I am interested in the Marbled. Its about 7-8 inches long and looks good. What is needed for getting a tank for him build up? I've been doing some research on tanks and I am gonna say up front I don't want something that looks "cheap"... Sorry if that offends anyone, but I want it to look real, live plants, not the stuff you see in a pet store. Can I do that? From my reading I need to clean the cage often? What can be used for the "bedding" dirt? Rocks, sand, mulch? What's the best heat source?

And about the conditions... How do I regulate the humidity and temperature. Let alone check the humidity?

Then about feeding, how many, and how often does a Gecko eat crickets? Are they relatively easy to take care of? Say I leave for a weekend trip. Will they be fine? Overall how hard are they to take care of?

Thanks for EVERYTHING people, I know thats a lot to ask. But I really appreciate it!
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Old 05-12-2008, 05:23 PM
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8 inch gecko? I'd say you could just get a 20 gallon aquarium. The live plants thing is definitely do-able. You need to put a good amount of work into that though. Fake plants are way easier.

If you wanna put live plants in, you need to buy sterile soil or at least soil with no pesticides or toxic things in it. If you get it from the yard you just have to make sure you know where it's coming from. If you're not sure, just bake it in the oven in a thing of tinfoil for a half hour. (425-450 degrees should do it) That can be a pain if you have a lot of soil though.

You have to look up what types of plants you can put in the cage. Some plants are toxic to reptiles. Take it out of the soil it came in, rinse the roots and get rid of all the soil it was in especially if you get it from a store, you're going to have to rinse it repeatedly for a couple weeks to make sure you get all the pesticides out. (once every few days for 2 weeks)

Bedding depends on what you have, look up "marbled gecko care sheet"
Read like 5, don't just use one, everyone posts different info and it's not neccesarily correct. If you have soil down because of plants you might be able to put mulch over it or something. I haven't tried keeping plants yet. If it all seems like too much just plant one in a pot of sterile soil, you can remove it easily for cleaning.

Heat source: I personally like Ceramic heat emitters. They're a bit pricier than regular bulbs but they'll last like 5 years. (says the packaging at least, I haven't had one that long yet) If your pets nocturnal you won't really need a light source but it couldn't hurt at all. If you're pet doesn't like bright light, it'll get used to it, and it could help it regulate when it sleeps. (light comes on it thinks it's day and goes to hide and sleep) You'll definitely want a good thermostat. Either buy a couple of the analog ones or just get one digital one. Place the heat source on one side of the cage so if it gets too hot or it wants to cool off, it can go to the cool side of the cage.

Humidity you do the same thing, buy a gauge. They'll be right next to the thermometers, sometimes they're packaged together.
You get a misting bottle for increasing humidity and keep in mind heat lights kill humidity. That's why I use a heat emitter.

Eating depends on the gecko. I saw you used to catch crickets to put in though. I used to do the same thing but I guess it can be pretty bad for them. They could have parasites or something or just be moldy from being in damp crappy places that crickets tend to hang out. Buy something to keep crickets in, and though it's annoying you have to take care of crickets AND the gecko, you'll have to feed them too. You can breed them easily if you want to also. Specific care sheets for the gecko will help a lot cause it's different for each gecko. water also depends on the gecko, some will drink off the walls when you mist it, some will drink from a water dish. If you use a water dish change it everyday or 2. If you ever see it sitting in it's water dish, then change it everyday cause it probably just peed in it lmao.

Cleaning , there's usually a reptile safe cleaning spray at the pet store. This is good for spot cleaning. Clean the tank once every week or 2 this way (just wiping down the walls and w/e) Unless you see something noticeably bad, just clean it right then. I do a full cleaning and bedding replacement every 4 months. Using a small amount of bleach, if you do that then make sure you rinse it really well and let it air out. There's this stuff called virosan on the pro exotics website, look that stuff up, I might replace all my cleaning products with that. It sounds really good I just haven't used it yet.
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In all honesty its the cleaning that has me holding off.... With the Live tank, I put down a few layers, correct. A "drainage" layer, some dirt, then the top layer right? Plant the plants, add some things for it to climb, bamboo shoots, vines, etc. When I clean this weekly, do I need to remove ALL of this, clean, then put it all back in? Or how does one go about cleaning that. What happens to all the poo? Won't bugs start getting in there? Sorry for all the questions its really a lot of help! How "hardy" are the marbles?
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If you're wanting to do a full blown live plant vivarium, check out our sister site Vivarium Forums. You'll find a lot more info there on this type of stuff (planting, drainage, pests, etc). Also, when looking for care sheets or information on marbled geckos, make sure that what you're looking at is specificly for Gekko grossmani. As I said before, there are several geckos that go by the common name "marble". You want to make sure that you're getting the correct information. Spend a little time reading through this forum. I'm sure there are some previous Gekko grossmani threads. And they're likely to contain some or all of the info that you're seeking.
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No, you don't need to do that at all, I think in my last post I said "full cleaning every 4 months." By that I meant removing everything. If you have a live vivarium you can make make cleaning even rarer. Buy this book (i think it's about 10 bucks) called "The Art of Keeping Snakes" In that it'll tell you what you need to make a bioactive substrate system. Sounds complicated and whatever but for the most part if you do what you say you're planning with the plants you'll sort of already have one. (you might even have one, i haven't gotten the book myself yet) Anyway, a BSS will make good bacteria which'll kill the germs and you'll only have to remove everything to clean once every year or 2. You'll still have to spot clean though of course. :P
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You do not need to completely tare down the cage every 4 months. Hell I havnt dont anything more than spot clean in like a year. The only really necessary time to totally tare up a cage is when your putting totally new animals in there and then you dont even HAVE to do it. If you go messing with a cage with breeders they can get freaked out because they where used to it one way and then you go changing so they stop producing for you till they get adjusted again.
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Yeah, but wouldn't the bedding absorb a lot of bacteria over a years time? That's the main reason I take it apart, to get new bedding.
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Yeah, but wouldn't the bedding absorb a lot of bacteria over a years time? That's the main reason I take it apart, to get new bedding.
There is alot of good bacteria ang bad bacteria and if they are designed right you dont have to worry about that to much. Really you are just causing your self more work.
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There is alot of good bacteria ang bad bacteria and if they are designed right you dont have to worry about that to much. Really you are just causing your self more work.
Oh then you have plants in there? If you don't have plants in there you'd definitely have to clean out the bedding every once in awhile
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