The BIG female tokay

ReptileMan27 · #1 02-15-2009, 01:09 AM

Got some more pics of the big female tokay, only got that 1 pic of here when I first got them but now she is out so got more pics of here

She is HUGE

I also added more stuff to there set-up, ran out of plants and stuff when setting up the cage so had to get some more.

holocaustto · #2 02-15-2009, 09:59 AM

That's a large and beautiful Gecko!! Im so jealous xD!!
Congrats

Ingo · #3 02-15-2009, 11:48 AM

A large tokay with a broad head. Looks very male to me. Do you have a closeup of the anal region.

Why do you cramp the poor animal in a tank less tall than twice tha lenght of the gecko?
Tokays are arboreal and want to be able to move vertically .
This tank is not suited to keep tokays in-unless you flip it by 90° -than its still small.

Ingo

thehotchik1000 · #4 02-15-2009, 07:15 PM

I second that! Your female looks very male. Tokays can be tricky to sex if you dont knoiw what to look for. Post some pics and let us give you a definate. My minimum tank for mine is the exoterra 18x18x24. I feel like those give even the biggest boys some good climbing room.

ReptileMan27 · #5 02-15-2009, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ingo

A large tokay with a broad head. Looks very male to me. Do you have a closeup of the anal region.

Why do you cramp the poor animal in a tank less tall than twice tha lenght of the gecko?
Tokays are arboreal and want to be able to move vertically .
This tank is not suited to keep tokays in-unless you flip it by 90° -than its still small.

Ingo

It has been proven many times that tokays DONT need huge cage to thrive. The cage is fine, would like to go bigger at some point but fine for now. Not my first tokay, been keeping them for years. I originally thought it was male but after sexing it its defently female.

Ingo · #6 02-16-2009, 03:25 AM

Yes, it has been proven that tokays can survive and breed in even the most inappropriate sized cages -like hens can in egg production factories.

But that does not abolish the fact that in the wikd they are active runners which roam around a lot. Have you ever kept them in larger tanks?
I have and you will see a difference. They make a lot of use of space-if provided and they are much more active than in small tanks.
Tokays are cheap and people do not want to spend money and space for a large tank for these lizards.
This is the only reason for keeping them in small tanks-apart from the fact that they survive it well.

But to me it is far from how it should be.

How can you believe that a setup for an arboreal animal, which spends its life climbing can be big enough if it is less tall than 2-3 x the size of the animal?

Last words. Here, I see too many people favouring tiny tanks for tokays and of course, these always shout me down.

However, if I have raised only a slight doubt deep within your mind, I am already happy.

But so far:Poor tokays

Ingo

Chris3004 · #7 02-16-2009, 03:41 AM

I agree and think this is the main reason why G. gecko is, unfortunately, often described as shy and aggressive. It's neither their nature, nor their choice. They are just kept in tanks where they can't put enough distance between themselves and the keeper.

For comparison, I keep mine in a tank 100x80x120cm (approx. 39x31x47) and they are really calm.

I understand a tank can't be compared with nature, but this one looks pretty small.

Regards,
Chris

holocaustto · #8 02-16-2009, 10:13 AM

Maybe flip it vertically would help...

Barnaby · #9 02-16-2009, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by holocaustto

Maybe flip it vertically would help...

I think that would vastly improve the enclosure! I don't think that the enclosure is that small, it's just in the wrong direction...

ReptileMan27 · #10 02-16-2009, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ingo

Yes, it has been proven that tokays can survive and breed in even the most inappropriate sized cages -like hens can in egg production factories.

But that does not abolish the fact that in the wikd they are active runners which roam around a lot. Have you ever kept them in larger tanks?
I have and you will see a difference. They make a lot of use of space-if provided and they are much more active than in small tanks.
Tokays are cheap and people do not want to spend money and space for a large tank for these lizards.
This is the only reason for keeping them in small tanks-apart from the fact that they survive it well.

But to me it is far from how it should be.

How can you believe that a setup for an arboreal animal, which spends its life climbing can be big enough if it is less tall than 2-3 x the size of the animal?

Last words. Here, I see too many people favouring tiny tanks for tokays and of course, these always shout me down.

However, if I have raised only a slight doubt deep within your mind, I am already happy.

But so far:Poor tokays

Ingo

Well your welcome to your own opinion but personally dont agree with it. I have kept tokays for years in various size cages, some bigger and some smaller. IME tokays find one of a couple places that they seem to prefer and thats where they spend 98% of there time. Tokays are NOT as active as you seem to think for some reason. We all have are own experiences and opinions but dont come here acting like a know it all and tell me im not caring for my tokays properly.

As far as putting the tank standing up right I was originally gonna do that but couldnt figure out the best way to heat it because if you put the light on the glass it gets too hot. If I can figure out a way to like get the light to stay on screen cover sideways then would be good to go, any suggestions for that would be great.