[IwantAbeautifulTokay]

i did not realize how awesome cresteds were until after i purchased my male tokay. my tokay is really tiny and only 2 months. What if i got a female crested and kept them in a 18x18x24 exo terra tank? i just cant see them eating each other but i dont have as much experience as a lot of you. so what do you think?


dereL

[Lordoftheswarms]

Don't do it! Trust me. One comes from a hot and humid tropical climate, and the other comes from a very cool, humid temperate climate. The needs of both can not be met in the same enclosure, and even keeping them in the same room can be hard to get both temperatures in each tank ok. On top of that, a Tokay is a very aggressive animal.
Don't mix species. Until you have had at least a couple years of experience and until you do a lot of research so that you can make informed decisions about what is appropriate, stick to this rule: ALWAYS HOUSE GECKOS ALONE, EXCEPT FOR BREEDING.
If you can't meet the needs of each of the animals consistently in their own enclosure, you certainly can not meet their needs when they are together.

[Ingo]

I fully second that.
However, what works well with tokays is, if you keep them together with larger lizards in really large enclosures. There they help to prevent roaches and crickets from excess proliferation and do in fact benefit from the extra space. For example, I keep 1,2 tokays in my 1200g basilisc tank since 12 years.
In smaller tanks, mixing with larger toads is possible. But tanks should not be on the really small side. Lets say 200g and up. In a 300g enclosure, for quite some time I had tokays together with Bufo guttatus and this worked without problems.
However, climatic and structural needs on the respective habitat have to be met for all species involved and as already said: cresteds are different.
Also, I would not go for any species of gecko or any lizard smaller than tokays.


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Ingo

[cliff_f]

Originally Posted by IwantAbeautifulTokay

i did not realize how awesome cresteds were until after i purchased my male tokay. my tokay is really tiny and only 2 months. What if i got a female crested and kept them in a 18x18x24 exo terra tank? i just cant see them eating each other but i dont have as much experience as a lot of you. so what do you think?


dereL

You should really start reading up on both species more. Buy a book of both species, read up on them. Or just start reading threw all the forums there is a lot of good info about them. If you do that then you will be capable of asking more educated questions. Just to put it a simple way. If you have done any research what so ever on the care of both species you would know the answer to that question.

[IwantAbeautifulTokay]

Originally Posted by cliff_f

You should really start reading up on both species more. Buy a book of both species, read up on them. Or just start reading threw all the forums there is a lot of good info about them. If you do that then you will be capable of asking more educated questions. Just to put it a simple way. If you have done any research what so ever on the care of both species you would know the answer to that question.

i have not read anything about cresteds. though i have read that tokays are highly adaptable so the only thing that concerned me was them fighting with each other and not what the temps or humidity was.

[cliff_f]

Originally Posted by IwantAbeautifulTokay

i have not read anything about cresteds. though i have read that tokays are highly adaptable so the only thing that concerned me was them fighting with each other and not what the temps or humidity was.

Tokays are also opportunistic eaters. So basically anything that will fit in their mouths they will eat.

And you really need to worry about temps and humidity. That is a major part in keeping any gecko.

For example

[IwantAbeautifulTokay]

Originally Posted by IwantAbeautifulTokay

i have not read anything about cresteds. though i have read that tokays are highly adaptable so the only thing that concerned me was them fighting with each other and not what the temps or humidity was.

If tokays can thrive here in texas, then i'm sure he would do fine under crested gecko conditions. do you read me? can i get a 10-4? thank you

[IwantAbeautifulTokay]

Originally Posted by cliff_f

Tokays are also opportunistic eaters. So basically anything that will fit in their mouths they will eat.

And you really need to worry about temps and humidity. That is a major part in keeping any gecko.

For example

lmao that is a great pic. whatever happened to not eating anything bigger than the width of their head. is that one of yours? normal with silver? eyes.

and my tokay is very small right now. so you think he would try eating a crested as soon as he is big enough? i was just wondering if maybe they would possibly get used to each other if they were put together at a young age.

i was not going to try it unless someone said its worked before.

[cliff_f]

That picture was of a wild tokay in Florida. That picture was taken by Bill Love, he discovered it on the side of his house and took a quick picture.

Ok here is the deal. Tokays need different requirements than cresteds. If you put them together the tokay will eat the crested. It is extremely stupid and careless and just plain dumb. So don't do it. Like I said earlier, do some more reading up on the geckos you are wanting to keep. You keep arguing that it is ok to do it. If you are so sure with your self then why, why are you on here asking if it is ok?? People say no then you still think it is ok?

Tokays do thrive in Texas in certain areas, but I bet a crested gecko wont last days in the same temps as a tokay thrives in. Why would you neglect care from one species of gecko just to be able to house it with another, why? Before you get all mad at me stop think and really really look at what you are doing. Then read up on both species again and see why it is not a good idea at all to house them together.

[danscantle]

I kept some tokays with a pair of Hoplodactylus delcourti for a few years, but I got rid of them when I left for college. It's getting harder and harder to find hoplos these days, but you could probably keep them with Phelsuma gigas or P. edwardnewtoni.